[[Primer]] Gonti - Night Market Shenanigans

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General Update —May 15, 2019

Hey everyone!

I haven’t posted an update in a while. War of the Spark brought quite a few goodies to us, but only a select few made the cut. I’m still doing some testing, and once I’ve decided on things, I will make a other new update as well as actually update the primer itself.

On a side note, I’ve decided to make a Discord Server dedicated to Gonti himself. I made one awhile back for Daretti and it seems to be doing pretty well. I’d like to have the same activity if possible, as I love playing and talking about Gonti.

The server is located here:

Gonti’s Treasure Vault

Join up and make sure you spread the word to any other Gonti players you know!

hobosss says... #1

Why no Vesuva? Seems like an auto include with a Coffer's Deck

January 17, 2019 2:03 p.m.

Guerte says... #2

hobosss: I'm not the biggest fan of running any lands that come into play tapped. It's just a personal preference of mine. But I will definitely give Vesuva some additional thought.

January 17, 2019 11:09 p.m.

Siege- says... #3

The guide is awesome and I really like the deck idea for Gonti! I am still too new to Magic to really be able to recommend anything, however I just wanted to say that the deck and guide are very well designed! :D

February 25, 2019 9:53 a.m.

Guerte says... #4

Siege-: Hey! Thanks for the compliment! I appreciate that.

For the decks I take a lot of pride in, I tend to go all in on the primers. Lol. I’ve also got one for Daretti and Omnath that I actively play (and also one for Breya, although I don’t play her anymore).

February 25, 2019 10:50 p.m.

sward4 says... #5

This deck list is awesome! Used a lot of this deck as reference for the one I built, but I included snow-covered swamps, extraplanar lens, and scrying sheets among other minor changes, but I love the way that it plays!

March 8, 2019 9:47 a.m.

Guerte says... #6

sward4: Thank you very much; I appreciate that!

I’ve thought about running some mana doublers, but I feel like the way I play my list, there’s no room for them.

March 8, 2019 10:49 p.m.

WhattheDeck says... #7

Awesome decklist! Only minor tweak I might make is to take out Go for the Throat and put in Tragic Slip .

Looks like tons of fun!

April 22, 2019 10:05 p.m.

dagonjugg says... #8

Love the decklist.

One thing to note, fast mana like mana vault and grim monolith seem absent, any reason why?

April 29, 2019 11:08 p.m.

lightwt says... #9

Hi, I have tried out the list and really enjoy it. I noticed recently you removed the Su-Chi and Marionette Master engines and just seem to have Grave Titan now for infinite mana. Am I missing something? Or how are you going infinite now to win?

May 9, 2019 12:30 a.m.

Guerte says... #10

WhattheDeck: Go for the Throat is less-situational removal than Tragic Slip, which is why I had chosen GftT in the first place.

dagonjugg: Mainly due to not having enough room in the deck.

lightwt: I’m testing out a less combo build and more so reanimator/value based deck. They may come back, but so far I’m liking what I’ve been seeing with it. I hate always ending the games the same way.

May 9, 2019 12:09 p.m.

WhattheDeck says... #11

I played around with a similar build in my play group and had some feedback from experience:

  1. This list runs a lot of targeted creature removal on high-cmc bodies, but lacks responses to non-creature-heavy decks. I put in Mesmeric Fiend and Thought-Knot Seer as more general removal instead of Duplicant and Ravenous Chupacabra . I usually ended up tutoring and reoccurring Meteor Golem , so even Noxious Gearhulk seemed a bit redundant. I'm considering replacing it with Brain Maggot .

  2. Vulturous Aven surprised me and actually performed really well. With a few recursions, this was reliable, under-the-radar card draw that also acted as a sac-outlet for Kokusho, the Evening Star when reanimated together. Considering adding Dusk Legion Zealot and/or Disciple of Bolas for more ETB card draw. I might also replace Phyrexian Arena for another ETB card draw creature or probably just Dark Confidant

  3. I put in Viscera Seer for the reliable, cheap sac outlet on a body (with card filtering).

  4. Added Strip Mine and Blast Zone for more removal. Took out Cabal Stronghold and a Swamp.

  5. Put in Thrilling Encore which creates a fun wincon with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed and other creatures. Didn't get the combo off, but had a good a blowout with Thrilling Encore after a boardwipe.

  6. Conjurer's Closet was expensive, always instantly targeted and never got much value. Probably going to replace with Abnormal Endurance , because these effects are so clutch and fun.

  7. When playing opponents' cards from Gonti, they go straight to their graveyards, which often creates a powerful disincentive to using the main ability of the deck. For graveyard control, I'm looking for a place for Heap Doll and Withered Wretch . This lets me play opponents' cards with Gonti and then instantly exile them before someone drops something like Snapcaster Mage.

  8. Adjusted the land base and ramp to include Fellwar Stone , Exotic Orchard , and Mox Opal to give more options for using activated abilities of opponents' permanents. Used Gonti to steal a Deadeye Navigator , which was hilarious and awesome.

  9. Finally, the real fun/value/intrigue of Gonti from the games I played revolved around the mystery of what cards I'd exiled with Gonti, and less on what goodstuff creatures might be lurking in my graveyard. My opponents were always flipping through their decks when they tutored, looking to see if I snatched away key cards. The combo players at the table were especially anxious. I loved it. I put in Praetor's Grasp and Bitter Ordeal to play to this strength.

  10. Great deck and definitely recommend anyone checking out this list give it a shot!

May 14, 2019 2:29 a.m.

Guerte says... #12

WhattheDeck: Thank you very much for that in-depth feedback! I will definitely take all of your suggestions into consideration, and take another look at my deck and see where I can fit them in.

Do you happen to have a list posted somewhere to reference?

May 14, 2019 8:13 a.m.