Liliana of the veil is obviously a powerful card that is hard to replace. I have seen Necrogen Mists in the place of LoTV in budget 8 rack decks before. Mists can be a huge power house and if you land more than one its bonkers.
December 11, 2016 10:12 p.m.
I've played 8rack for about a year, scrapped the deck cause it loses to Chalice of the Void if they drop it at 1 charge counter. There's nothing you can do about it. You're in black so you have no artifact removal.
However, this deck brings me back a little bit. It was fun to play until my playgroup boarded chalice. I remember all of those turn 2s that I had to concede. Good times.
December 17, 2016 12:41 a.m.
Just one question, since you're in mono black, wouldn't Extirpate be cheaper financially? Or are you counting on the phyrexian Mana for a free cast?
Nice 8 rack, build, by the way. I love this archetype and you did a great job with it.
April 8, 2017 6:25 p.m.
April 9, 2017 3:35 a.m.
Fair enough. I run my own 8 Rack and I thought that I was missing something. Thanks.
April 9, 2017 4 a.m.
Cry of Contrition would go well with your Augur of Skulls
April 16, 2017 11:36 p.m.
April 17, 2017 2:44 a.m.
As a dicarding deck lover and user, I feel free to post here. Hope you don't mind.First, I'll back my comment up by acknowledging you that I've built and played discard for many years way before Shrieking existed, and thus, I've commited the same mystakes as everyone (like trying Liliana's Caress and Quest for the Nihil Stone, for example) ...and no, I won't suggest those.
Good job with the budget deck, seems pretty legit.
I'm aware that you are aware of Inquisition of Kozilek being 3-4 usd is a budget possibility. And I do agree that a card like Blackmail is special because it can discard lands. But that job is for another star on your team; you've already got 4 copies of Raven's Crime (plus all the flood lands that will turn into more copies of it), Raven's got that issue perfectly covered.
Inquisition of Kozilek covers another issue, the one that concerns about disrupting the opponent's starting play. He'll never reveal his important 1-drops or 2-drops, because he needs them for his wicked plan. Inquisition is the hero that gives the villain a hard time or at the very least, buys us some time.
So, sumering up: I know Blackmail is a great card, but we (the users of this deck) need to get a pick at our opponent's entire hand to mock his best start. It's a luxury we cannot miss. Inquisition of Kozilek excells at doing so and can be backed up by one or two copies of Duress, Despise or Harsh Scrutiny, all of those great super budget options.
As far as removal, I pretty much agree with your choices. What I definitely add is a singleton Murderous Cut and maybe cut out a copy of Victim.
About Necrogen Mists which is in your "maybeboard" right now. I wouldn't even bother. 4 copies of Raven's Crime (plus two Delirium Skeins) are more than enough substitute for Liliana of the Veil's constant discard.
By the way, I love Augur of Skulls. I've played it even in non-budget, since Wrench Mind doesn't work around heavy artifact deck playgroups -which was my case for some time-. Delirium Skeins would have been a good substitute too, but I was running too many 3cmc cards at the time.
One last thing, I've just noticed you didn't sideboard any specifics against burn so I suggest considering either:
2- Nyxathid which can stand lots of direct damage, block those prowess little scum, and help killing your opponent since it's most likely that he'll tear our The Rack appart with their new toy Abrade.
Hope it helps!
October 2, 2017 3:06 a.m.
Oh and... forgive my english. Ain't my native language so I might have it all confusingly written (like this very sentence).
October 2, 2017 3:11 a.m.
Thanks for commenting,
I really appreciate that you made an argument about why Inquisition of Kozilek is necessary and is pretty budget friendly, however, this deck is just a starting point for building a real 8-rack deck, real lists use cards like Lilianna of the Veil, Thoughtseize, Mutavault, and a variety of other pieces, all of which are needed to play this deck on a professional stage (As I'm sure you are well aware) and are pretty expensive. Anyone who really wants to build 8-rack will likely upgrade as they go anyway.
This list was made a couple years ago, back when decks like midrange decks like Jund where still the top decks of the format, and I had no money. I know that sometimes fringe decks like this one win games, and with the format going back to top-down again, it's becoming more competitive. However with decks like eldrazi tron reigning at the top of the format with cards like Chalice of the Void the deck is still hard to win with.
I do mention in the primer that the sideboard for this deck is tuned to my meta, and mine alone. Anyone who plays against specific decks should plan accordingly.
Finally, I appreciate your support for the list, and I welcome the support of any other mono-black players who still hold my favorite style at heart.
October 3, 2017 9:46 p.m.
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