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Hello, Sargeras here!

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DISCLAIMER: Below is an archive of budget decks that either I have personally made, or have seen around the site and saved here for users who want to find budget decks.

Standard

Since I do not play standard (I love the format but I hate having to change around lists and constantly having to buy new things) my #1 reccomendation is to check out the budget archives on MTGGoldfish as Saffron Olive has built tons of great lists (he also does this for modern)

You can check them out at this link MTGGoldfish Budget Archive

Modern Primers

How The Devil Plays MTG: The Mono-Black Primer

How To Play Fair: The GW Hatebears Primer

Order Is Restored: The UW Control/Midrange Primer

Mono-Red Burn Primer (Budget/Non-Budget)

Modern Budget Decklists

Competitive Mono Black Midrange on a Budget

Competitive Azorius Control on a Budget

BOROS BRAIN-BASHER (Turn 4 Kill)

NETDECKERS BEWARE: A WILD HOMEBREW APPEARS!

YOUR ASS IS GLASS! (Budget Illusion Aggro)

Competitive RG Ponza On A Budget

Bouncing Faeries Everywhere

~$125 Budget BW Tokens

~$75 Pilla-Pala Infinite Combo Deck

~$70 MONO-RED BLITZ!

Cries of Despair (Competitive Budget 8-rack)

Joe's Suicide Black

Modern Mono Green Infect Budget

Burning Booty on a Budget

Budget Black Eldrazitron

Brewing Modern on a Budget: Blood of Madness

Brewing Modern on a Budget: Modern Foggy Swans

Turning Dogs into Apes for $25

For Those Without an Affinity for Money

~$35 Mono Green Super Ramp Deck

Overgrown Umbral Elf ($30 Turn 3 Infinite)

Stompy, the cheap gateway into competitive modern

Making the Leap: Delving Into Modern on a Budget

Budget Elf Breeding Grounds - Turn 4 Kill

That has how many counters?!?

Whitest Deck Ever

Sodium Hypochlorite (White as Fuck!)

The Most Stupid Deck That Wins Ever

U/G Infinite mana turn 3 winning!

Brewing with Modern: Mono White Aggro

Legacy Budget Decklists

Shadows of the Dauthi

~$26 Fluctuations and Miscalculations

~$26 Mono-Blue Makes Your Friends Hate You

EDH Budget Decklists

How To Be An MTG Mafioso (Budget Kambal EDH)

Gwafa Hazid, The Cheap Way To Be Political! (~$15)

Who's Hungry? (Thromok Budget EDH)

Why Play Group Hug When You Could Play Group FUN!

Kaladesh Has A Future

~$70 Yidris Budget EDH

The Demon Horde

The Starving Sorcerer (~$30 Arcanis EDH)

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger - Uril $40 Budget

Decks I'm Currently Playing

A Guide On How To Be Boring

How The Devil Plays MTG: The Mono-Black Primer

Oloro Combostax EDH

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Said on Black White Control...

#1

Interesting build, so +1, here are my suggestions:

  1. Most of this stuff looks like the WB control deck from standard, which is a slower format, but in modern, almost every deck is trying to kill you around turn 4, which means cards like Read the Bones, Ruinous Path, Transgress the Mind just aren't going to make the cut, if you want card draw Night's Whisper is more on curve (you lose scrying but that should be ok) Phyrexian Arena is also an option that is more dependable. While Ruinous Path, Ultimate Price, and Hero's Downfall were great in standard, 3 mana in modern should get you more, cards like Go for the Throat, Path to Exile, and Dismember are much better at dealing with creatures and are more on curve. (Also, Victim of Night kills pretty much everything in the format, so I'd play it over Grasp of Darkness. Transgress the Mind is obviously outclassed by Inqusition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize but it could probably just be 2 more Castigate, since many deck in the format like burn don't even play 3 drops.

  2. Do you really need 26 lands? 24-25 is what most decks need to consistently play 6 drops, but that's more for you to decide. In any case, some budget duals are Isolated Chapel and Caves of Koilos, I'd probably put chapel in since you play so many basics.

  3. I'm unsure if you need to play both Languish and Wrath of God, because it really should be just 4 wraths if you think you need all 4 of them.

  4. This deck looks well pivoted towards beating creature based decks, but a deck like Ad Nauseeum would run right over you. I'd recommend playing 4 copies of Duress in your sideboard if you don't have inquisitions/thoughtseizes in the main.

  5. The deck needs a sideboard plan, as mentioned above Duress seems like a good option for the deck, I'd also recommend playing Disenchant or moving some amount of Anguished Unmaking into the sideboard, since you likely wont need all of them in a game. If gravehate is needed for budget Tormod's Crypt and Nihil Spellbomb are very cheap. Extirpate can shred combo decks and couples well with discard. There are other ideas but it's all meta dependent.

  6. While I like the idea of assembling Bruna and Gisela, I think a better plan would be to play 2 Gideon Jura, as he can fog for a turn, kill creatures, and is a finisher all by himself. Also, I think you get rid of some of your creature removal to play Lingering Souls since you are so overloaded with it and the synergy it has with cards like Sorin, Solemn Visitor is amazing. Elspeth, Knight-Errant could also be looked at as a one-of since it works with Lingering Souls and Shambling Vent.

These are my suggestions, let me know if you'd like anymore feedback.

Cheers!

March 26, 2017 11:13 p.m.

frogkill45

Commandeer was actually in the original list, but was cut for other cards, might make it's way back to the sideboard.

March 24, 2017 2:22 p.m.

Durkle

Thanks for commenting!

I think you've got the right idea for black to be the budget splash (The original idea was grixis, so I'll swap red into the upgrade tab instead) as such I've swapped out what was there for what there is now, I think Duress can be a sideboard card tacked on in game 2 should it be needed. Building this deck on a budget was more for other people then myself, so I have no problem raising it another $10 or so. (Flaying Tendrils is just better then Infest) I did get that Scrying would help my opponent, but I figured getting to Shared Fate was more important then what came after it, but with a tutor I think it'll be alright.

March 24, 2017 3:58 a.m.

hardhitta71194

The reason why is because our opponent could actually cast Lightning Bolt and deal damage to us, resulting in us losing.

March 23, 2017 4:48 p.m.

Said on How To Be ......

#5
March 23, 2017 12:10 a.m.

Said on How To Be ......

#6

Exaggeration, cpu_10

Here are some upgrades that could be made,

Unbudgetizing the manabase, playing cards like Godless Shrine to help increase consistency in mana.

Karlov of the Ghost Council over Ajani's Pridemate.

Rhox Faithmender and/or Alhammarret's Archive should have a place somewhere, likely over Blood Tithe and/or Debt to the Deathless.

Athreos, God of Passage, likely over Souls of the Faultless.

Serra Ascendant can easily find a place in this build.

Other options that I don't know what to replace with are Ravos, Soultender, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Noxious Gearhulk, Enlightened Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Debtors' Knell, Sorin Markov, and Liliana Vess.

March 23, 2017 12:02 a.m.

Interesting deck, so +1, I have a few suggestions,

  1. Make sure that the hubs for this deck state both casual and gimmick, that way you don't have to say that you are playing casual, the hubs say it for you! (Just a little thing though)

  2. I get that this deck is RB which means it wants to be aggressive, but you have some shifting themes here, on one hand, you have aggressive beaters that can swing for a ton of damage, and then there Ulamog and Bane of Bala Ged which you will likely never cast in a single game (Good luck casting 7 & 10 drops with 22 lands) My first suggestion would be to cut Ulamog and Bane (I know they are fun but you likely won't cast them) and replace them with 2 more Dust Stalker and 1 more Endless One.

  3. Replace Processor Assault with Flame Slash, slash came from rise of the Eldrazi and does basically the same thing with way less cost.

  4. Behind the Scenes: Skulk would allow creatures like Sludge Crawler to get in for damage and allow you to Ingest cards without having to worry about blockers (they slither around). This would probably come in over Forerunner of Slaughter since the card just doesn't do too much imo.

  5. I'm not a particular fan of tap-lands, Sulfurous Springs would be ideal since you can play cards and effects for both anyway.

Cheers!

March 22, 2017 4:23 a.m.

Sloppie

Since we are a group hug deck, we can't have an obvious wincon, otherwise someone might just say, "I'm going to attack you because you could combo off at anytime" and you'll be dead. Reins of Power alone might just have someone attacking you because we do play pillowfort cards.

Instead, our main plan is to mill out the other players when they are low on cards, since we play so many "Each player draws X" type cards, we can actually get other players to mill out from a big prosperity. Another example is that plenty of people play cards like Reliquary Tower to keep whatever they draw, and Windfall has been known to mill out other players.

The other idea here is that you SHOULD be killed last because you can just say "I'm helping you, why attack me?" and other things like that, and since nothing we play is really that scary, people should be worried about the other people at the table, not you.

You also have to remember that people will remember previous games, so your playstyle has to reflect a group-hug method as well.

March 20, 2017 6:05 p.m.

Said on None...

#10

As someone who has played UW control competitively for a while,

(examples of UW control I've made Competitive Azorius Control on a Budget & A Guide On How To Be Boring)

I can give a few suggestions,

  1. Play 24 lands, it's standard for control decks and is the only way you'll be able to cast 6 drops consistently.

  2. Is this for budget? If so I think that AEtherling would be a better finisher then Admonition Angel, since you can protect it and play cards like Wrath of God. (It also means that you can have it as the only creature in the deck.)

  3. Vapor Snag isn't what you are looking for, as Condemn, Path to Exile, and Sunlance are all better options for removal. (I get you want to have the synergy with cards like Meddling Mage but those cards are pretty easy to deal with.)

  4. Render Silent should really be Mana Leak, if anything, render should be a sideboard card, since you can shut down combo and other control decks with it.

  5. Cut the oblivion rings for wraths like Supreme Verdict, Wrath of God, or Day of Judgment, 4 D-spheres is more then enough to deal with what it needs to.

A complete primer for UW Control is here Order Is Restored: The UW Control/Midrange Primer

March 14, 2017 6:19 p.m.

Said on Hunted Sisters...

#11

I haven't seen a Blood Illness list in quite some time, so +1 for bringing back such a unique build! (It never really left the kitchen table but it was fun)

A couple suggestions,

Forbidden Orchard: It was used in the old lists as a way to achieve easy mana fixing while giving yourself plenty to things to kill with Illness in the Ranks

Since you aren't using white (which would give you access to Twilight Drover, Suture Priest, Zealous Persecution, and Orzhov Pontiff) I'd recommend playing some kind of direct tutor effect to get you illness or a hunted creature, (I don't know exactly what, I know Dizzy Spell is the only transmute for a one drop it's just an idea) simply to improve consistency.

In any case it's nice to see an older deck brought back, Cheers!

March 14, 2017 12:54 p.m.

You are correct, since you you are putting the creature into play, you are not casting it, this is how cards like Aether Vial allow you to get creatures through counterspells, and why when Nahiri ults for Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, you don't get an extra turn.

March 13, 2017 11:25 p.m.

Cenarius

I would first start by upgrading the manabase a bit further just to ensure consistency, also, ramp staples like Sol Ring and whatnot would be great.

As for the rest, I'm unsure, as I've already used many of the commonly known blue and white group hug cards here, but feel free to experiment and find what works for you!

March 13, 2017 2:06 a.m.

Said on What is a ......

#15

There is no such thing as a "mistrigger", it is possible during games to forget that triggered abilities occur, but that is a mistake, (an update on that matter is here) http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/missed-trigger-update-2013-02-04

However, on to what you wanted to know, since you cast Vapor Snag targeting an opponent's creature, the spell goes onto the "stack", since you have cast an instant or sorcery spell, Niblis of Frost's effect will go onto the stack as well, and happens before your Vapor Snag even resolves.

This means that the controller of the Niblis would tap target creature, and then the vapor snag would happen, and in that order. If your opponent controls no creatures when Niblis's effect is activated (however there must a target in this situation otherwise you aren't targeting a token with Vapor Snag), the ability would fizzle and do nothing, however if there is a legal target, then it must be tapped. Your friend cannot say during combat, "oh yea, now I'll tap that creature" because that's not how the card works.

March 12, 2017 9:52 p.m.

Said on How To Play ......

#16

d.reynolds

As I said before, this list is based around Collected Company and making sure you get hits off of it. Vial is another possible way to build the deck, but that's what the primer is for.

It also has a counter-synergy with Creeping Corrosion which is a must have to battle decks like Affinity.

March 8, 2017 7:34 p.m.

Said on How To Play ......

#17

d.reynolds

Cards like Qasali Pridemage, Stony Silence, and Creeping Corrosion are great against Lantern Control and Affinity.

Cards like Ghost Quarter and Leonin Arbiter are good against decks like Jund and Infect so you can deal with cards like Raging Ravine and Inkmoth Nexus without having to use Path to Exile.

You can also use cards like Blessed Alliance to get around infect's quick kills, or just use Sunlance as an extra removal spell.

Against tron, Aven Mindcensor and Gaddock Teeg work well at disrupting an opponent's game plan.

Against abzan company cards like Rest in Peace can be steller at disrupting their combo (also works against dredge too).

Cards like Kitchen Finks and Rest for the Weary are great against burn.

Merfolk is a tougher matchup for this deck since it's a mono colored deck.

March 8, 2017 5:28 p.m.

Anger of the Gods is great if you expect to be playing creature heavy decks that play lots of 1,2,3 drops, and is Dredge hoser, however against a deck like Control, the card does effectively nothing, so you have to decide whether or not the card is good enough to have a place as a 2-3 of in the main. However, if dredge and GW decks that play cards like Kitchen Finks/Voice of Resurgence aren't a thing in your playgroup, you can be a really sneaky bastard and use Firespout instead of anger, that way you can wipe your opponent's board without killing your Chimera. (given that their stuff isn't flying too)

After a bit of playtesting, I can give you some more constructive feedback, which is

  1. While Ember Swallower is a decently sized 4/5 body for 4cmc, that is all it really is, as you need at least 3 more turns for it to become a 7/8 and try to ram through an opponent's board. (Which means it has to live that long) I'd try to swap these out for a playset of Thunderbreak Regent, this card is cheap now that it is out of standard, and is a 4/4 with Flying that has the ability to Lightning Bolt and opponent if they target it.

  2. While Spellbound Dragon has the potential to bring a lot of damage to the field, it is pretty underwhelming by itself, I'd personally recommend playing Stormbreath Dragon or Thundermaw Hellkite as these creatures are devastating when they hit the board and can win games by themselves. (They all have a synergy with Thunderbreak Regent) But playtest to see what works.

Realistically, you'd need to playtest to see what works and what doesn't work, as you are trying to homebrew up an arch-type, so there is no well-defined plan, only things you can look at and see if they work or not.

March 8, 2017 5:08 a.m.

I'm also unsure about Cyclonic Rift being in the mainboard, as you probably wont be able to use the overload cost on it anyway. I'd personally reccomend that it be moved to the sideboard, (or replaced with Echoing Truth entirely) and something like Magma Jet take it's place in the board.

March 8, 2017 4:29 a.m.

Is there a reason why this deck doesn't run Chalice of the Void + A spirit Guide for a hard lock against a deck like storm?

March 8, 2017 4:11 a.m.

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Playing since 2010 Core Set
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