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Ovalchase Daredevil
Creature — Human Pilot
Whenever an artifact enters the battlefield under your control, you may return Ovalchase Daredevil from your graveyard to your hand.
zapyourtumor on
Tails from the Crypt
1 month ago
Imo running 7 protection spells 4 fogs and 4 artifact enchantment removal 3 authority of the councils maindeck is less effective than other pieces for redundancy or dig for consistency.
Redundancy: Insidious Roots(B) Kishla Skimmer(U) Fang, Fearless l'Cie Meld (B) Dredger's Insight
Consistency: Cache Grab Seed of Hope Commune with the Gods Dredger's Insight (again) Malevolent Rumble
I know the list is intentionally jank but personally I think it the most competitive type of deck utilizing this effect is a grindy midrange deck using different trigger loops, asmo + cookbook + Ovalchase Daredevil and/or cat oven. but I forgot enduring renewal was modern legal, definitely an interesting take. I think it is possible to add more midrange elements to the deck with a combo finish if you went Abzan but that would require more money.
zapyourtumor on
Tails from the Crypt
1 month ago
Imo running 7 protection spells 4 fogs and 4 artifact enchantment removal 3 authority of the councils maindeck is less effective than other pieces for redundancy or dig for consistency.
Redundancy: Insidious Roots(B) Kishla Skimmer(U) Fang, Fearless l'Cie Meld (B) Dredger's Insight
Consistency: Cache Grab Seed of Hope Commune with the Gods Dredger's Insight (again) Malevolent Rumble
I know the list is intentionally jank but personally I think it the most competitive type of deck utilizing this effect is a grindy midrange deck using different trigger loops, asmo + cookbook + Ovalchase Daredevil and/or cat oven. but I forgot enduring renewal was modern legal, definitely an interesting take. I think it is possible to add more midrange elements to the deck with a combo finish if you went Abzan but that would require more money.
SufferFromEDHD on
Yawgmoth
5 months ago
Nice seeing Dross Harvester being used to its full potential
Since you are running all the big mana lands Crypt of Agadeem and Deserted Temple would be right at home
Yawgmoth needs gas like Squee, Goblin Nabob
. Blacks closest versions are Ovalchase Daredevil and Veilborn Ghoul.
wallisface on
Timely tokens
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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You never really want to play lands that are very likely to enter the battlefield tapped - all of Vineglimmer Snarl, Choked Estuary, Necroblossom Snarl, and Zagoth Triome are all waay too slow to be useful. If you can't acquire fetchlands, then I'd suggest trying to acquire the fastlands - Blooming Marsh, Botanical Sanctum and Darkslick Shores.
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With no basics, you automatically lose to Blood Moon if an opponent plays it. You also have absolutely nothing to gain if the opponent casts Path to Exile or Assassin's Trophy on one of your permanents.
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For Collected Company to have any reasonable chance of hitting at least 2 creatures, your deck needs to have at least 27 creatures within it - without this number there's no point to playing the card. At the moment, with only 15 creatures that the card can use, the card just isn't good enough.
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Once you remove Collected Company, your deck has a lot more lands than it will need - and you could easily drop down to 22 (or possibly even 20).
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Urza's Saga lends itself really well into finding various 1-of toolbox cards that can save you in certain situations. Having a single copy of cards like Shadowspear, Pithing Needle, Relic of Progenitus etc can help you put-the-squeeze on many opponents.
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Lonis, Cryptozoologist really wants to live in a deck with lots of creatures. Just like Collected Company, your creature-count isn't high enough to justify this card.
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If you're playing Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar, you probably want to play the full playset, as well as the full 4-ofs each of Ovalchase Daredevil and The Underworld Cookbook.
legendofa on
UR Food
2 years ago
scotchtapedsleeves If I may make a guess on draftdump69's behalf, you don't. The Ovalchase Daredevils are supposed to be discard fodder for The Underworld Cookbook, helping reach delirium for Dragon's Rage Channeler and recurring with a stream of food tokens. If a 4/2 body is needed for some extra pressure, you can bring it out with Electrodominance or As Foretold.
scotchtapedsleeves on
UR Food
2 years ago
Is your only black source Springleaf Drum? How are you meant to cast Ovalchase Daredevil?
wallisface on
【Emotional】▷ RANT ◁ WOTC's GREED has RUINED MAGIC!
2 years ago
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There’ve been many only polls around Teferi, Time Raveler and they all point to him being annoying but nowhere-near overly strong. The change of the card on arena is due to balancing it fir that format, not modern. The card is typically only good versus control & some combo decks.
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Again, most pro-level players have no real issue with Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer as far as I can tell - the comparison to Deathrite Shaman isn’t a fair one: Shaman is always useful at almost every point of the game. Raganan is oftentimes found to be unuseful, particularly later in the game, if you’re on the draw, if the opponents deck has nothing worthwhile to cast etc. Dragon's Rage Channeler is imo faar stronger than the monke (but also not ban-worthy).
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yep Wrenn and Six should habe either cost 3, or started with 2 loyalty.
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Expressive Iteration is a card that creates more format variety, in that blue decks don’t typically run proactive cards, and red decks don’t often run passive cards. 90% of the time this is just an Anticipate that also gives you a land.
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Comparing Ovalchase Daredevil to Splinter Twin is extremely unfair. Twin was hugely popular and you could slot the combo into literally every blue deck. Daredevil requires deckbuilding considerations, has a pretty low level of consistency, and a very low play rate (hint: there’s a reason it sees almost no play). Reanimator can definitely “go off” on turn 3, and i’d argue would be more consistent in doing so without Daredevil. Also all of the high level Grinding Station decks i’ve seen don’t use Daredevil at all (they use Underworld Breach, and with that can go off on turn 3 also).
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I forgot to mention Mishra's Bauble last time but I don’t see that card getting banned. It does nothing on the turn you play it, and makes opening-hands feel more like a gamble. The card is strong, but only really sees play to activate delirium. I think this card will only ever get banned if something else is printed that can abuse it far too much - which will probably happen at somepoint, but we’re not there yet.
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Underworld Breach has only really caught peoples eyes over the last month, where people have realised you can slot it into a LOT of decks and just get incidental free-wins if the game goes long. I think its definitely ban-worthy pending how popular it ends up becoming, and how the meta shifts to deal with it.
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If i were taking a guess at how likely these cards were to be banned in the next 3-5 years, with a “10” being guaranteed, and a “0” being not-ever-happening, i’d have to guess:
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Underworld Breach: 7 (pending popularity rise / counter-play)
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Teferi, Time Raveler: 3 (assuming it would get banned for being unfun, not power level)
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Omnath, Locus of Creation: 2 (probably up to a 6 if they don’t ban W&6)
PhyrexianPraetor on
【Emotional】▷ RANT ◁ WOTC's GREED has RUINED MAGIC!
2 years ago
Teferi, Time Raveler is not bannable? Despite your argument it is overpowered. They even had to alter it in online mtg by making it cost four and changed it’s ability from “your opponents can only cast spells at sorcery speed” to “your opponents can only cast spells on their turn”. They had to alter it’s ability so that counter magic could still be used against it’s controller. That is it’s main problem, once resolved it literally makes it so the opponent can’t respond to what you’re doing and makes the game very one sided.
Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer is a card that me and my hyper-competitive friend have talked about alongside the other cards on my list. He believes Ragavan might get banned at some point due to doing to much for 1 mana and actually forcing the opponent to have an answer for it. This was the same exact argument that WOTC used for banning Deathrite Shaman.
Wrenn and Six should never have costed 2 mana. If it costed more it would probably be fine, but it comes down too early and effectively warps the game. Having consistent land-drops was meant to be something you had to work at (like drawing tons of cards).
Expressive Iteration is the one card my friend actually mentioned to me. In the last year he has played at every local modern event and says it generally leads to whoever can cast it first ends up winning.
Ovalchase Daredevil fits into the same argument that Splinter Twin did. They thought about leaving twin in and banning the creature it was paired with, but they decided to ban twin not only due to overrepresentation (which cookbook isn’t overrepresented), but due to it being the engine for the combo. Daredevil effectively is an engine, without it The Underworld Cookbook would suddenly gain a downside and actually cost cards to use it. As is, it has no downside whatsoever. My friend has been showing me what decks it gets used in. One is a Grinding Station deck that uses the daredevil+cookbook combo and was the least offensive one he showed me and my other friend. The two that see the most play where I live are both archon decks that use the combo as part of a reanimator package and even with main-board graveyard hate, were ultimately very difficult to stop or next to impossible to stop. In all three cases, these decks wouldn’t have been able to go off turn three without the cookbook. Which again, WOTC has had a history of hating combos and strategies that go off before turn 4.
Believe it or not, Underworld Breach sees no play where I live. It has been considered unplayable by my local meta ever since Endurance started seeing more play. One guy tried it and ended up giving up on it after a few months.
All in all, the cards I listed all fit into reasons other cards got banned. Either due to being an engine for a combo, unfun to play against or do too much for next to no investment. I ain’t going to hate on you, cause everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But my statements still stand and are valid. Especially with WOTC’s history of reasons to ban cards seemingly being ignored now.