Need Disruption/Semi-Wrath That Also Provides Card Draw/Ramp

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Posted on March 4, 2018, 1:19 p.m. by theindigoeffect

The colors that I specifically need help with are red/blue/green.

Some of what I have so far: Mana Drain, Baral's Expertise Incendiary Command, Spell Swindle, Adverse Conditions, Rewind, Snap, Muddle the Mixture, Molten Psyche, Collective Defiance, Monastery Siege, Izzet Charm, Fateful Showdown, Combustible Gearhulk, etc.

I am trying to maintain a board state with my The Locust God and Animar, Soul of Elements decks, so while something similar to a Decree of Pain in those colors would be great, something similar to Baral's Expertise would be even better, but I am open to all suggestions.

Thanks in advance!

shadow63 says... #2

March 4, 2018 1:55 p.m.

It doesn't really draw cards, or create ramp.

March 4, 2018 1:56 p.m.

shadow63 says... #4

There isn't really anything that for does that

March 4, 2018 3:16 p.m.

alexremy says... #5

Cryptic command, Chain of vapor, retraction helix, rift is also overall just great. Mystic confluence,

March 4, 2018 3:24 p.m.

Nietzsky says... #6

Time Spiral is a wheel that provides ramp, Frantic Search is a draw 2/discard 2 with land untap, Paradox Engine is a common combo piece to allow your removal spells to untap all of your mana rocks.

March 4, 2018 9:30 p.m.

Rzepkanut says... #7

Rhystic Study is like the king of this idea right? Theft abilities (especially Treachery and Bribery, & Desertion) can also have the desired kind of tempo effect on the game. Supplant Form, Phyrexian Ingester and Duplicant are similar too. Primal Command bounce a permanent and tutor is a great tempo play. Mwonvuli Acid-Moss & Annex are great 2 for 1 ramp & tempo spells. I'm a big fan of Profaner of the Dead as a mass bouncer, could be kinda similar to the Expertise. Kira, Great Glass-Spinner is a great card to mess with people and get ahead on board simultaneously. ....Too bad Sylvan Primordial, Sire of Stagnation and Fractured Identity aren't options, they would be great fits.

March 5, 2018 10:32 a.m.

enpc says... #8

As a general rule, trying to find cards that act as removal AND card advantage/ramp as a single spell are generally very inefficient mana wise.

It's better to just run better quality dedicated card draw and dedicated easy to cast control spells and just streamline your deck then it is to try and bundle them together. And more card advantage is generally the way to go as it digs for said removal cards. But as a control deck, the last thing you want is to have your hand full of 5 mana counterspells.

March 5, 2018 8:32 p.m.

shadow63 says... #9

March 6, 2018 11:55 a.m.

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