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Pheardemons says... #1

Gitrog needs to be play tested. I'll proxie him up and see chirz2792.

April 29, 2016 9:19 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #2

ComboCrazy and chirz2792 let me know of what you think of some of the cards taken out/put in. You can look at the updates for specific cards, but overall I think I've made this deck with a pretty decent toolbox theme. Let me know of any suggestions you can think of, and please let me know what you think of the maybeboard.

chirz2792 - The Gitrog Monster didn't really make the cut. With Crucible of Worlds on the battlefield he was amazing, but if it wasn't I didn't want to draw him, nor wanted to reanimate him. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I am still considering cards to help me mill more, again a little worried about decking myself, but maybe just one card to continuously mill might be worth it. Maybe a creature, Dreamborn Muse so I can sacrifice it whenever I want if it's milling too much.

Also if yal know of any decent cards that can help me discard cards from my hand with a benefit in doing so would be nice. I tried to look and didn't find any that jumped out at me. Lotleth Troll isn't bad, just not sure if it's worth the card slot. Let me know if you can think of any.

May 4, 2016 5:32 a.m.

chirz2792 says... #3

@pheardemons: You're welcome for the suggestion. He's a good card in general but not good everywhere i guess. As for the discard thing Fauna Shaman seems made for a deck like this and if you have the money Survival of the Fittest is even better.

May 4, 2016 11:58 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #4

Thanks chirz2792! I actually really like those suggestions. I don't know if I can get both, but absolutely getting one.

May 4, 2016 1:47 p.m.

ComboCrazy says... #5

NOPE NOPE NOPE

May 4, 2016 5:40 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #6

Would you like to clarify ComboCrazy?

May 5, 2016 12:11 a.m.

ComboCrazy says... #7

NO THANKS, I'M OUT, GOOD SEEING YOU, TOO BORKEN, MUCH SCARE, AAUGH no seriously this is awesome I actually don't have any suggestions lol

May 6, 2016 12:01 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #8

Haha thanks man. I was actually able to play this in multiplayer setting a couple times at a hobby shop and after the first game everyone targeted me immediately and asked me to change EDH decks. Later in the day I played again and was second to last, but the other player was control (Keranos, God of Storms) and he kept reoccurring Tormod's Crypt. I almost got Inkwell Leviathan out and would've won, but he milled it with Codex Shredder the exiled it. I was able to get him to 9 life but couldn't pull the win. I'm really starting to love this deck, just need to put in more answers that can stop people hitting my graveyard (any cards in sultai colors that can give me hexproof?). Maybe even just putting in cards that don't need the graveyard. Any thoughts ComboCrazy or chirz2792?

May 6, 2016 12:29 a.m.

ComboCrazy says... #9

There's Orbs of Warding and Witchbane Orb, but that's about it for hexproof in Sultai. There's some other stuff you could do, but it'd involve you constantly switching out your hand with stuff in exile and stuff in your graveyard. There are cards which allow you so shuffly your graveyard into your library, though.

May 6, 2016 12:33 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #10

I know cards that allow me to shuffle my graveyard into my library ComboCrazy, but any at instant speed? Also thanks for the artifact suggestions!!

May 6, 2016 12:38 a.m.

ComboCrazy says... #11

Yeah, there's Cranial Archive. It also draws you a card.

May 6, 2016 12:39 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #12

Thanks ComboCrazy. I'm almost there to buy all of the cards for the deck too! I was able to get 150 dollars worth of cards by only paying 16 bucks because I traded in cards. Now I've got less than 20 to buy. Excited to own all the cards for my second EDH. First was my Oloro, Ageless Ascetic deck.

May 6, 2016 12:50 a.m.

ComboCrazy says... #13

That's cool! EDH can get pretty expensive, its actually an achievement to build a whole deck.

May 6, 2016 1:09 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #14

It really is, especially when people play competitively. I really don't NEED Academy Ruins or Volrath's Stronghold, but they do make the deck consistent. It all depends on how one wants to play or make the deck. ComboCrazy do you have any EDH decks? I think I've only seen modern artifact decks from you.

May 6, 2016 3:15 a.m.

TheLivingCME says... #15

Hey bro, if you're interested in shuffling your graveyard into your library, check Elixir of Immortality, it can really work wonders! And besides it nets you some life and shuffles himself, which is nice.

May 6, 2016 3:23 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #16

TheLivingCME what is up man! You're on late (where I am it is late), and actually I literately just changed Dread to Elixir of Immortality, and when the page loaded after saving your comment was up. Thanks man!

May 6, 2016 3:26 a.m.

TheLivingCME says... #17

Ahahah, telepathy! Actually here it's morning instead. :D

May 6, 2016 3:52 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #18

If you don't mind me asking where are you? Also somewhat interested in the fact that you commented here. It's an EDH deck haha.

May 6, 2016 3:55 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #19

TheLivingCME, sorry didn't tag you in the comment above.

May 6, 2016 3:55 a.m.

TheLivingCME says... #20

Oh, I were just randomly surfing the site, and I got here. :) Anyway, I live in Italy!

May 6, 2016 4:19 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #21

Ah well cool deal. Good morning! haha. Yea I've done that before too. There are some weird decks on this site if you look long enough.

May 6, 2016 4:29 a.m.

TheLivingCME says... #22

Yeah! It's a wonderful source of inspiration!And thanjs! XD

May 6, 2016 4:44 a.m.

Ostrichman01 says... #23

May 10, 2016 12:42 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #24

Ostrichman01 - first off thanks for the look and comment!

Golgari Grave-Troll was in the initial 100, but was taken out for Stinkweed Imp. The dredge quality is still there, with the reoccurring nuisance of deathtouch. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and Nighthowler were also taken out because this deck isn't about putting all of my creatures into my graveyard. I'm trying to make this into more of a toolbox theme and utilizing multiple resources with the added graveyard that my opponents usually can't utilize like I can. I very rarely had enough creatures into my graveyard to make any of the above creatures truly worth the card slot.

May 10, 2016 10:47 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #25

ComboCrazy - first off how have you been man? Haven't seen to much rom you lately. Hope your kicking life in the ass.

Secondly I wanted to ask you about a couple cards I'm debating on the deck. How do you feel about Oracle of Mul Daya added in the deck? It can take lands off the top of the deck so I can hit my commander's trigger more often. Additional lands per turn can help ramp, and with Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Crucible of Worlds, and Strip Mine it could add and additional land destruction per turn. I just don't know if it is worth the card slot. I'm not sure if I see myself reanimating it from my graveyard if it gets milled, I'm worried I might not want to see it if I draw it being that it is a little situation, and I don't have draw engines in the deck to fill my hand with lands. I was debating taking out Coalition Relic if I was going to make the exchange. I just don't know if it is worth it.

Next is Codex Shredder. Obviously Codex Shredder is much better if I put in Oracle of Mul Daya being that I can mill a card I don't want, a creature into my graveyard to reanimate, or extra lands if I hit all of my lands drops for the turn. Again a similar problem is if it is milled I'm not sure I care to get it back. Without being able to see the top of my library I don't care for the mill being that I have better options than just one card per turn. Lastly, 6 mana for recursion from my graveyard is a lot if the mill doesn't turn out the way I'd want it to. I was debating taking out Elixir of Immortality because it hasn't been doing as well as I'd want it to be doing.

Increasing Ambition is a card solely for EDH purposes, but do you think it is something worthwhile in this deck? I don't mind milling it, but 8 mana is somewhat expensive if I get mana screwed, not to mention 5 is extremely expensive in a format where Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and other tutors are readily available. I was thinking of taking out Sultai Ascendancy for it, but if for whatever reason I put in Oracle of Mul Daya Sultai Ascendancy becomes that much better.

A pet card I was thinking of trying out was Garruk, the Veil-Cursed  Flip. I don't mind sacrificing creatures in this deck, plus adding tokens could be beneficial in this deck for defense until I get rolling. However trying to flip him could be a little rough and annoying. I'm not sure how much utility he truly has being the same situation, if it is in the graveyard do I care to bring it back?

RedJokr actually I could use your input as well on this man. Please let me know what yal think!

I've also been debating on Snapcaster Mage and some more control cards like Maelstrom Pulse, Putrefy, ect. Any suggestions or thoughts about that?

June 9, 2016 4:40 a.m.

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