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Oko, Thief of Crowns
Legendary Planeswalker — Oko
+2: Create a Food token. (It's a colourless artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")
+1: Target artifact or creature loses all abilities and becomes a green Elk creature with base power and toughness 3/3.
-5: Exchange control of target artifact or creature you control and target creature an opponent controls with power 3 or less.
DemonDragonJ on Should All Planeswalker be Allowed …
1 day ago
The subject of allowing all planeswalkers to be generals in EDH has been discussed m any times, and here is one of many posts that involve this discussion, so I would like to bring that discussion to this forum, as well.
I can certainly see the appeal of allowing all planeswalkers to be generals, I personally believe that some planeswalkers simply would be far too powerful if their controller always had access to them, with some notable examples being Jace, the Mind Sculptor or Oko, Thief of Crowns, so I would prefer to not allow that to occur.
What does everyone else say, about this? Should all planeswalker be allowed as generals, or are some of them simply too powerful to allow that? I certainly am interested to hear your thoughts, about that.
legendofa on Mark Rosewater Considers the Fetchlands …
1 month ago
Introductory thought: it's kind of interesting that a fetchland can be something like Terramorphic Expanse or Brokers Hideout, but the fetchlands are unquestionably that cycle.
I'm glad they exist, and I'm happy when they get reprinted. There absolutely should not be any functional reprints. In the formats they're legal in, color restrictions and requirements lose a lot of their impact. Boros Burn splashed blue and green just for Oko, Thief of Crowns. Add in stuff like landfall (wasn't Omnath, Locus of Creation around at the same time? Warp dem formats!) and revolt (Fatal Push) and similar effects, and fetchlands offer a lot of utility in a lot of different directions.
As a thought experiment, if every set for the next couple of years had the fetchlands cycle, and they were preemptively banned in Standard, how would that affect people's deck building patterns? Ignore the financial stuff involved with suddenly flooding the market with a scarce commodity for now. Would that make different formats more accessible?
Crow_Umbra on
Commander/EDH Game Changers
2 months ago
I don't intend to come across as pointed or abrasive, but have you played against either Kinnan or Winota in extensive capacity, DemonDragonJ? I used to have both commanders in my main play group, and faced off against them on multiple occasions each. I run into them on occasion now.
Kinnan is 2 mana, and has built-in mana acceleration to more quickly achieve his own (powerful) activated ability, which to call back to one of your threads from earlier this week, is a "Do the Thing" type of design space. Kinnan is his own engine and payoff in one package. On top of all that, his Simic color identity grants access to efficient ramp in addition to his own ability, and counterspells. The times I've played against Kinnan, my opponents were typically dropping Eldrazi Titans or big curve toppers like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur or Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger.
Winota needs a bit more build intention with Humans to Non-Human ratios, but is still fairly powerful in terms of being able to dig for creatures. White has access to Stax-y Humans like Grand Abolisher and Drannith Magistrate, and also has tutors on bodies like Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the Guard to find additional answers. Beyond some of those efficient control and tutor effects on Human bodies that Winota can dig into, she can set up stax-y boards and break parity with her own ability. Throw Winota into the 99 for something like Isshin, Two Heavens as One and attack with a board of Non-Human creature tokens, and you can vomit up most if not all of the Humans in your deck. I'm speaking from recent experience on that last one lol.
Oko, Thief of Crowns could end up on the GC list, so definitely is more of a " not there for now".
DemonDragonJ on
Commander/EDH Game Changers
2 months ago
I do not wish to sound ignorant, but how are Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy and Winota, Joiner of Forces worthy of being considered game changers? They certainly are powerful, but I do not think that they are nearly as oppressive as are Grand Arbiter Augustin IV or Urza, Lord High Artificer
, for example.
And how is Oko, Thief of Crowns not on this list? He is extremely powerful, and I believe that he most certainly can warp games if left unchecked.
Caerwyn on DemonDragonJ
4 months ago
veritablecvn already provided you a link about Nadu, but I wanted to respond about Oko, Thief of Crowns as well.
Wizards was pretty open about what happened with Oko - essentially Wizards did playtest it, but were too much inside their headspace. The problematic ability - the +1, was designed to build up your own board by turning low-value food tokens into creatures. During playtesting, Wizards extensively used the ability for its intended purpose, and it was fine.
Except for one little problem - they were so focused on its intended purpose, they did not realize it also acted as a removal spell. That error was a bit silly, but silly in the kind of way that can sometimes happen when a group of people all look at something for too long, and all collectively get focused on what they think it says, instead of what it does.
DemonDragonJ on Is playtesting gone?
4 months ago
I know that you were referring to a feature on this forum, but I wonder if WotC still playtests card before printing them, because I cannot imagine how anyone at WotC could have thought that either Oko, Thief of Crowns or Nadu, Winged Wisdom were even remotely balanced, before they released those cards.
Icbrgr on Could Uro come back to …
9 months ago
Yeah shifting the conversation more towards modern... can't help but giggle at "format warping" just because of how everything has been in modern since Horizons.....but you are not wrong though I certainly think we would see it played lot...Psychic Frog would probably love it! in the same way The One Ring goes around as it does it would probably be great to fight boros energy bears... so long as Field of the Dead and Oko, Thief of Crowns are out of the picture and the one ring likely leaving soon maybe Uro isn't that crazy of an idea
Icbrgr on Could Uro come back to …
9 months ago
I was on a hiatus from actually playing paper magic during the Standard release of Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath so I don't really have grasp of the power of this card specifically... but I cant help but wonder if this card by itself could ever return or even maybe in the next upcoming December Ban list announcement/update?
When I do any digging into what decks looked like that were running Uro I tend to notice two other cards alongside it.
The three of these cards together proved to be too much for the Pioneer and Modern formats to handle... but with the latest additions of the newest Foundations set for Pioneer and Modern now being on its 3rd Horizons set (in addition to universes beyond) does anyone have any thoughts on if we could see it return?
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