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Balefire Liege
Creature — Spirit Horror
Other red creatures you control get +1/+1.
Other white creatures you control get +1/+1.
Whenever you play a red spell, Balefire Liege deals 3 damage to target player or planeswalker.
Whenever you play a white spell, you gain 3 life.
pookypuppy6 on Ranking the Lieges
2 days ago
I feel there's something to be said for Creakwood Liege over some of the others. It's fragile for sure, getting blown out by Shock is real bad. But it's on the cheaper end of lieges at four mana and, unlike Balefire Liege or Deathbringer Liege, does give its value without further mana investment. Kind of one of those "set-it-and-forget-it" cards. I admit though, those last two are in better colours for token-y, swarm-y colours that like the lord buffs.
The Creakwood point is conversely is why I'd rank Mindwrack Liege much lower. Farting in big blue or red creatures at instant-speed is funny, but it's a huge mana investment relying on you having a creature in your hand you want to cheat in (6 to play and then 4 to actually use). And as you mentioned, odd colours for that effect too - red does have big dragons though!
DemonDragonJ on Ranking the Lieges
4 days ago
I previously made a thread to rank the "swords of X and Y," so I shall now rank another one of my favorite cycles in this game, the lieges from Shadowmoor and Eventide, and I would like to emphasize that this ranking is purely my own opinion, not based upon any guidelines, so I am not stating that any one creature is superior or inferior to another, although I definitely believe that the five enemy-colored lieges are vastly superior to the five allied-colored lieges, which I hope was simply an unfortunate coincidence, and not a deliberate choice by the employees of WotC. Also, as a side note, I am severely disappointed that the allied-colored lieges all have names that reference locations or factions on Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, which limits the sets in which they can be reprinted, whereas the enemy-colored lieges have names that are generic and would work on nearly any plane of the multiverse. As I did, with my previous list, I shall begin with the lowest-ranked card and end with the highest-ranked one.
Thistledown Liege is clearly the worst of the lieges, as it is merely a 1/3 for 4 mana, and its keyword, flash, is useful, but only once, so I question how WotC could have designed this creature. Considering the other allied-colored lieges, this one could easily have been a 2/3, or even a 3/3, for the same mana cost, but its unfortunate status is why I am ranking it at the bottom of this list.
Ashenmoor Liege is better than is Thistledown Liege, but not by a significant margin, so its is ninth on this list; again, it could have had higher power and/or toughness, being a 4/2 for the same mana cost. Its ability is nice, but, with such low toughness, the creature is likely to die easily, meaning that its ability shall trigger only once; if this creature were to be designed, today, I imagine that it would have ward, as that would be an upgrade from its current ability.
Boartusk Liege is actually fairly strong, compared to the previous two lieges, so I have ranked it at eighth place, here, but it is merely a beater, so there is not much else to say, about it.
Wilt-Leaf Liege has the highest power and toughness among the allied-colored lieges, and its ability is nice, but I cannot rank it as the highest of those five, because its ability, while useful, is too specific, as it shall not be used in every scenario, but it certainly is a useful creature for decks that focus strongly on elves.
I ranked Glen Elendra Liege as the best of the allied-colored lieges because it has flying, a keyword that is always useful, for both attacking and defending, and also because fairies often are very powerful creatures.
Mindwrack Liege has a very useful ability, albeit one that is interesting in the two colors that have the least emphasis on creatures, but that does not justify it costing 6 mana; none of the other lieges are that expensive, so I am ranking Mindwrack Liege as the least of the enemy-colored lieges.
Creakwood Liege can produce a token every turn, which is very useful, especially considering that it makes those tokens more powerful, but it is only a 2/2 for 4 mana, when it could easily have been a 3/3 while still being balanced, so I regard it as the fourth best of the enemy-colored lieges.
Seedborn Muse is a very powerful card, so any card that has a similar effect is likely to be very powerful, as well, even if it works only for a specific group of cards, as is the case with Murkfiend Liege, which balances its ability being more specific by making creatures more powerful.
Black and white are my two favorite color in the game, so I am very glad that Deathbringer Liege, the black and white liege, has two very powerful abilities; the majority of decks use creatures to at least a certain extent, so having a repeatable method of destroying creatures, or at least reducing their utility, is a very powerful ability, indeed.
I dearly wished that I could have ranked my favorite liege, Deathbringer Liege, as the best liege of them all, but I ultimately chose Balefire Liege as the best liege, because of how universally useful its abilities are; it can increase its controller’s life total while also reducing the life totals of its controller’s opponents, which makes it a creature that I believe should be in any deck that contains the colors red and white.
What does everyone else say, about this subject? How do you feel about my ranking of the ten lieges (again, I ranked them purely by my own opinions, not be any strict standards or criteria)? I certainly am eager to hear your opinions, on this matter!
DemonDragonJ on Unbalanced Cycles in MtG
1 month ago
The majority of cycles of cards in this games are at least somewhat balanced, but there are some cycles that are rather unbalanced, where one or two cards are noticeably (and often hilariously) over- or underpowered compared to the other cards, so I would like to discuss some of those cycles, in this thread.
One of the very first cycles in the game, the original boon cycle, was hilariously unbalanced, with Ancestral Recall being significantly more powerful than were the other cards in that cycle, Healing Salve being easily the weakest, and the other three members being between them in terms of power; Lightning Bolt remains a staple to this day, but Giant Growth and Dark Ritual
are much more niche cards, today, due to power creep. Since that cycle was one of the first cycles in the game, I believe that players can forgive WotC for not being able to balance the cards in it.
Another unbalanced cycle is the avatar cycle from Prophecy, in which Avatar of Woe is clearly the most powerful, while Avatar of Will is the weakest, with the other three being between them in power.
Another great example is that the majority of the "rhystic" cards are fairly weak, but Rhystic Study is extremely powerful, so I wonder what the designers were thinking when they made those cards.
One of my personal favorites is how the lieges from Eventide (i.e., Balefire Liege, Deathbringer Liege, and so forth) are blatantly superior to the lieges from Shadowmoor (i.e., Ashenmoor Liege, Boartusk Liege, and so forth), and I am very displeased at the disparity between the allied-colored and enemy-colored lieges.
What does everyone else say, about this? What are some of your favorite examples of unbalanced cycles in Magic: the Gathering? I certainly am eager to hear your thoughts, on this matter!
legendofa on Poll: Would you allow a …
2 months ago
Haven't actually tried to build and use it yet, but I outlined a deck on here with a monocolor commander and only hybrid cards. I touched grass, now I'm shipwrecked in Jund Something with this level of gimmickiness, I'd be okay with because it's not that good. If a deck has one, maybe two hybrid cards, I wouldn't have a problem with as long as they're announced ahead of time. Some of them have pretty unique and interesting effects.
My big problem would be if you used them to gain a clear technical advantage or had a specific use for them based on their color-ness. An easy example of this is Bloom Tender. No, you don't get to claim Tribune of Rot and Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second as multicolor in your monogreen Elf deck for Tender to make more mana. If you try to pull this during a game, you get one and a lecture on permission abuse.
Another example is using something like Ashenmoor Liege, Balefire Liege, Creakwood Liege, Deathbringer Liege, Thistledown Liege, and Wilt-Leaf Liege to give your commander +7/+7. You get the Deathbringer, and the rest go away.
hyalopterouslemur on Naya tricks
2 months ago
Yeah, when most players talk about combat tricks, they mean cards like Giant Growth.
Anyway, I have to second Sun Titan works well with your aura theme.
Hellrider can do a lot of damage.
May I suggest Curse of Stalked Prey? That damage can add up, and it lets you play a little bit of politics by encouraging other players to attack the enchanted player.
While not on theme, Balefire Liege is just great. Speaking of Eventide, Scourge of the Nobilis is a great mana sink.
If you want creatures to get through, may I suggest Trailblazer's Boots? In fact, hating on nonbasic lands is surprisingly effective in my metagame (where most people run four or five colors).
Warstorm Surge is a bit expensive, but it's a removal engine all on its own.
DemonDragonJ on Lorwyn Eclipsed Speculation and Wishlist
3 months ago
I would like to see the lieges (i.e., Balefire Liege and Deathbringer Liege, and so forth), the demigods (i.e., Divinity of Pride, Dominus of Fealty, and so forth), and the demigod auras (i.e., Edge of the Divinity, Scourge of the Nobilis, and so forth) reprinted, preferably with new artwork, because very few of those cards have been reprinted, and, the few times that they have been reprinted, they rarely ever had new artwork, so that would be very nice, indeed.
BadBrains on
rienne
7 months ago
Karametra, God of Harvests *f-etch*
Nature's Lore + Three Visits + Jetmir's Garden required
DadHumanPraetor on
Feather, the Cruel Striker
2 years ago
Zada, Hedron Grinder Mirrorwing Dragon Balefire Liege and Chandra's Ignition are all awesome in feather. Really fun deck.
