Infinite Dredge with the Gitrog?
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Posted on March 25, 2016, 5:16 p.m. by CheeseBro
Is there any way I can get infinite dredge with The Gitrog Monster and 1-3 dredge cards?
Please help!
TheRedMage says... #3
I don't think this is a rules question. Maybe Epochalyptik or another admin should move it to a more appropriate forum?
Keep in mind that The Gitrog Monster triggers wen a land is put into your graveyard from anywhere, so you can skip Fastbond altogether and infinitely discard Dakmor Salvage to any free discard outlet and use the trigger to dredge it back to your hand.
If color identity is a consideration, the only free outlets you have are Grotesque Hybrid, the new equipment Murderer's Axe, Oblivion Crown, Oona's Prowler, Patchwork Gnomes or Putrid Imp. If you can play red, though, you might as well play Seismic Assault or Borborygmos Enraged and win the game :)
March 25, 2016 5:37 p.m. Edited.
Raging_Squiggle says... #5
Skirge Familiar and Dakmor Salvage combo together to get an arbitrarily large amount of 
mana which you can use to cast/activate:
Dread Return for Triskelion then flashback for Mikaeus, the Unhallowed.
Dread Return a Necrotic Ooze and murder people with a terrifying blob.
mill everyone out with Undercity Informer's ability (which also works under Necrotic Ooze.
If not enough mana, you can cast Morality Shift to do it all again or have an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and go "infinite".
March 25, 2016 8:57 p.m.
Discard outlet + dredge card. Dakmor salvage is infinite, but even without it you keep dredging and getting discard benefits as long as you hit a land on each dredge.
March 26, 2016 2:52 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #7
While that's true, Dakmor Salvage guarantees an infinite where you otherwise may get unlucky and not dredge any lands one time and burn out.
March 26, 2016 2:55 p.m.
OneItsStarted says... #8
Bitter Ordeal + one of the Eldrazi Titans (ex: Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre) + Dakmor Salvage + The Gitrog Monster + free discard outlet = Exile opponent's entire library (Eldrazi and Ordeal only have to be in library)
March 27, 2016 7:59 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #9
I don't see how that's exiling everyone's library. A permanent is something on the battlefield, otherwise it's a spell on the stack, and a card everywhere else.
Dredging Dakmor Salvage returns it to your hand, not the battlefield.
Bitter Ordeal only checks permanents, not cards, that go to the graveyard.
March 27, 2016 8:07 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #11
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March 28, 2016 1:50 p.m.
has anyone realized that you dont need a discard outlet for dakmor? it occured to me a couple days ago. even better if you have gitrog as commander. (this is what i have)
at end of turn, have 8 cards in hand, one of which is dakmor. discard it, gitrog triggers, dredge dakmor. then the tricky part, when gitrog triggered, players get priority during clean up, which causes clean up to repeat. then just discard dakmor again. etc.
no discard outlet needed, and go as long as you want. and get all the extra free draws each time the dredge puts another land other than dakmor into you graveyard
hope this doesnt screw up my combo by getting something banned
May 9, 2016 3:30 a.m.
ok, more searching, people are talking about this. and i cant see how to delete my comment. still, love the combo, but wonder if it should be banned
May 9, 2016 3:58 a.m.
TheRedMage says... #14
@ Azrazal: Wow, pretty impressive thread necro here lol.
I don't think this is particularly close to being ban-worthy. You still need two pieces on top of your commander: the discard outlet and the dredge card. Granted, you have a decent amount of redundancy for the former, and a bit for the latter (Dakmor Salvage is obviously the best,but even if you are not truly going infinite a card with a large dredge number like Golgari Grave-Troll or Stinkweed Imp will almost always dredge a land). But even the most resilient builds fold to Rest in Peace/Leyline of the Void, and even if you don't this isn't any more consistent than Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker/Zealous Conscripts or many one-card combos like Tooth and Nail, which are not really in the talk for banning.
Re: using discarding to hand size as your discard outlet. In order to win, my build requires infinite mana, which means I need to be able to cast Lotus Petal/Lion's Eye Diamond. Obviously though the possibility of eschewing one of the combo pieces is very interesting. Do you have a way of winning the game when you are going off by slow-discarding?
May 9, 2016 4:57 a.m.
follow up dredging deck away with living death (or twilights call) and i have a sadistic hypnotist to clear out my opponents hand, and a mogis's marauder in there to make all the creatures i need intimidate and haste.
still have a lot of work to do on the deck, will be uploading what i have made here when i get time. my deck was originally from the izzet vs golgari duel deck.
also, im not trying to just make a deck that always wins as quick as possible, i like combos, and i like playing differently every time.
the thing i find crazy about this combo is with gitrog as commander, only need to get dakmor out. and can use clean up step as discard outlet. nothing else required, effectively becoming single card combo to dredge away whole deck and get enough draws that i can get whatever cards i want basically. i also hope to get songs of the damned at some point so i can cast my twilights call at instant speed easily
May 9, 2016 11 a.m.
TheRedMage says... #16
Sure. The thing I dislike is that you need to wait until your next turn to cast Living Death, so your opponents get a whole turn cycle to react. The advantage of going off while having a discard outlet is that you can play The Gitrog Monster, go off and win in the same turn.
Also there is the fact that it's very hard for you to win through a Propaganda or similar effect that way.
This is kind of another aspect of the eternal combo tradeoff, lol. You are trying to remove a combo piece, making the combo more consistent, whereas when building the deck I was trying to maximize how resilient the combo was.
May 9, 2016 11:34 a.m.
Please check the date of the last posts on a thread before posting. Anyway, it's definitely not ban worthy. The deck is a fun, new, and exciting tier 1/2 commander deck that needs two pieces on top of the commander to combo, is very vulnerable to graveyard hate, and doesn't have blue.
CheeseBro says... #2
So far all I have is The Gitrog Monster + Dakmor Salvage + Fastbond + any land sac card.
March 25, 2016 5:18 p.m.