Several Decks needing Help

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Posted on April 2, 2019, 5:08 p.m. by BMHKain

This is going to be a long one. So I'll have to make what I'm saying brief.

Yep, Ezuri, Claw of Progres. With a low Competitive Scale, 5 cards to cut, & potentially replacements; I wonder when WAR's Walkers are known for Static abilities more terrifying than mere Emblems, & that's in Uncommon alone; I'd like to get some cuts/replacings of actual cards. Something tells me, this can be better, but I dunno where to start w/ such Ascendancy... Any ideas would be great.

I am currently trying to make a Tetzimoc, Primal Death deck on my own, though even though I need no help, progress is EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW, but do believe I can at least do that myself.

I also plan to make a Partners-Based Naya () Equipment-Voltron Deck. Tana, the Bloodsower is confirmed as Partner 番号1 (No. 1), & Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder as 番号2 (No. 2). I'm actually on a bind w/ this actually; but I wonder how to make this kind of deck Equip-Based, & Voltron/GoLion based.

Expect a lot of Equips; Why ol' Bruse is there, when he doesn't truly support the strictly Equip subtheme for Voltron I dunno...

1000% Spark Storm (EDH Superfriends Primer)

Commander / EDH* BMHKain


& yet again, I'm working on a Superfriends deck; even as I cancelled the whole primer idea...

Also, if anyone wanted to know the Doomsday Pile in ; I might as well get 2 specific of one of the following...

Tormenting Voice + Second Sunrise + Conjurer's Bauble + Lion's Eye Diamond + Grapeshot & Faithless Looting as the card to crack open the pile.

Yep; I might as well get 2 Lion's Eye Diamond .

All these decks still need help; & I'm still working on trying to make a LUDESIA themed Vorthos/Melvin Deck...

So, anymore ideas?

BMHKain says... #2


I dun suppose anyone has any ideas for the other decks, &/or even a -only Doomsday Pile? I'm still struggling for either Mana Tithe for the needed to negate the counter, & Pyroblast for -only targets. Thoughts? Kiki-Jiki & Felidar Guardian are confirmed. But w/ the rules of no graveyard staying allowed, this adds another element. Any ideas?

April 3, 2019 1:04 p.m.

BMHKain says... #3



Err... Does anyone want to help w/ at least something? I dunno what to choose between Mana Tithe ( is all it takes to deny.), or Pyroblast ( Targets only.), but I still need three more cards to complete the pile; & yes, it's still going to be Boros Based. Oh, & should I remind you all again that I'm making this pile as if the situation has a way to turn my Graveyard to an Exile Zone. Keep this in mind no matter what.

For the other deck (), Just getting to 100 isn't going to be enough. I wonder if I can find better after that.

That said, I'll resume my Mono- deck later on, but w/ so many walkers from WAR, I'd like to find some cuts after the fact...

Thanks for trying, I just wanted to prove such a Doomsday idea is still a plausible cause. Now, if you don't mind, I have a lot of junk to add to my Superfriends Primer...

Good luck... :/

April 4, 2019 11:14 a.m.

BMHKain says... #4


I still have 2.5 parts of a Doomsday Package. It will still be based, & the cards must not enter the graveyard after use; given the situation that cards like Rest in Peace , Planar Void , & as a target of Leyline of the Void . The cards so far? Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , Felidar Guardian , & Mana Tithe , or Pyroblast . I'll ask someone about this matter.

I'm still 5 cards over in my +1/+1 Counters Deck. But even after that, I'd like to find some replacements anyway.

Also, I'm thinking of making a Equipment-Voltron Deck. But so many creatures of this kind focus on creatures at all. I don't think they'll ever be such a thing as this; unless you know any w/ Voltron Potential (& no, Uril, the Miststalker doesn't count. This is Equipment Based. Auras have no place here.).

Anyone still willing to help on this? I'll ask about the Doomsday package from here...

April 5, 2019 10:42 a.m.

cdkime says... #5

There are a number of possible Naya Voltron commanders, but I think your best bet is going to be Tana, the Bloodsower and Akiri, Line-Slinger would make a good commander. Partner is a weird choice for Voltron, as each commander tracks its damage separately, but I think these two might be uniquely situated for what you want, and they allow you to adjust your strategy depending on who you are playing against.

Tana, the Bloodsower is great against enemy decks with creatures, as you're getting chump blockers every single time you deal damage with your commander. She also has trample to punch through some additional damage. If you are using Tana, the Bloodsower as your Voltron in a given match, Akiri, Line-Slinger still makes for a pretty nifty little card, as she will be getting boosted by the equipment attached to Tana.

If you are against players with fewer creatures, you could use Akiri, Line-Slinger for her ability to become an ever-increasing threat.

April 5, 2019 11:07 a.m.

cdkime says... #6

Upon reflection, I think Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder would actually be the better choice for Tana, the Bloodsower to partner with. You would use him as a sorcery to give Tana double strike and lifelink; with the possibility of a pseudo "rebound" if Bruse Tarl survives to the next combat step.

Also, if you do go with Tana, be sure to add Sublime Archangel, as each of the saprolings you create will give Tana +1/+1, allowing her to grow exponentially with each passing combat.

April 5, 2019 11:16 a.m.

BMHKain says... #7

@cdkime: Hmm... Well, I guess Tana, the Bloodsower it is for Partner 1. Though this Voltron Deck will be planned to be Equipment Focused. So, I don't suppose you have such a suggestion between the two Boros CMDRS? I, mean, we're dealing w/ Tiana, Ship's Caretaker , even Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith . Still in a bind between the two Boros Partners though... & recently revised my old project awhile back. (Using Tajic, Legion's Edge as CMDR as I dunno what is any cheaper; even though I'm unsure if there is a WAR Walker that might work in such a field as cEDH, but that's another time... Oh, & I didn't want to do Depala, Pilot Exemplar Dwarf Tribal; not even Anax and Cymede targeting only them for Aggro; not what Boros needs to make it out alive from Tier 4...)

But back to the question: Akiri, or Bruse Tarl? I'm in a bind on this... >_<

April 5, 2019 12:42 p.m.

BMHKain says... #8

@cdkime: Actually, I also have another issue nobody seems to be able to assist me on: I'm working on a Mardu CMDR Deck. One of the Wincons; albeit optional, is actually Doomsday . But I have several requirements enforced for the Pile for Doomsday . First off, these are the only colors allowed for the Pile: . No exceptions; I wanted to feel like this Pile can be used as if a wincon for Boros. Second, I must be able to us this pile as if I were going against someone capable of Graveyard Hate of the highest level: turning whole Graveyards to Exile Zones. Cards like Rest in Peace , Planar Void , & even Leyline of the Void are capable of this. So, unless it's spot removal (Which I'm in a bind of two currently: Mana Tithe & Pyroblast ; each having a HUGE downside.), it better not die; as they will face a fate worse than that even. So far, I have only one stratagem in these colors: Infinite Damage. Two cards I have so far are Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker & Felidar Guardian ; with the third being one of the two aforementioned Spot Removal. If you have any better suggestions for this, great. Otherwise, I can't seem to find anyone willing to help w/ this ordeal. Lots of project still in the works; I might even have to abandon the Primer part of my Superfriends deck, & focus on cuts after WAR's Full Spoiler List is revealed.

Back to the primary task: How would you make a Doomsday Pile like this? Would you change both creatures instead of the ones mentioned? What would you choose between Mana Tithe & Pyroblast ? What would you suggest in a situation in which you can't retrieve stuff from a graveyard that's NOT there (Still using this clause, & you should as well.)?

Is this even possible? I'd like your input on this. Sorry about posting twice. >_<'

April 5, 2019 2:11 p.m.

BMHKain says... #9


Just updated the OP. I'll ask AlwaysSleepy one more time for the Doomsday pile; as I now realize, the Exile Zone thing is just asking too much. 3/5 cards in the pile are already shown. Though I wonder if anyone wanted to help w/ the other Deck still in the works of being Cut & Revised (The Deck). Also, Who to choose alongside Tana, the Bloodsower ? Akiri, Line-Slinger , or Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder ? From there, I'll start the Equip-Voltron Project. That said, I'm almost complete w/ the Tetzimoc, Primal Death , deck, & I'm liking it. But what to do w/ all other things mentioned earlier? Any ideas?

April 8, 2019 2:27 p.m.

BMHKain says... #10


I clearly still need help w/ my

Ezuri, Claw of Progress Deck. Not just to cut to 100, but for what to replace within that 100. Tetzimoc is actually almost done, but even my Gate.dec Deck is slower progressing than the Primal Death himself even is now. I'll work on the latter 2 for now, but I still need 2 more pieces to the Doomsday pile. (Already have Faithless Looting , Second Sunrise , & Grapeshot .) What other two pieces do I need I wonder; as well as a Cantrip to crack it open?

Finally, cdkime, I'm still in a bind between Akiri, & Bruse Tarl for a Partner Naya Equip-Voltron Deck. Since this will be Equipment only, & no Auras, I dunno what would be better between those two.

That, & with the new Vehicles of WAR, I'm contemplating a 5 color (For now.) Vorthos deck on Mortal Engines Again... I wonder...

April 10, 2019 9:04 a.m.

BMHKain says... #11

(you know this is a bump, but you're all nihilists. remember?)

Things aren't looking good for my Gate.dec deck, but at least I still have plans for a Mortal Engines Vorthos deck. Just started my Naya Equip Voltron Deck, but I can't seem to find much that doesn't actually destroy Artifice in such colors in place of supporting them. I'll have to resort to somewhere else for this...

After that, I still need help w/ my +1/+1 Counter deck. & nobody seems to want to comply to this idea entirely. That, & I still need 2 more pieces to my Doomsday Pile. Only then, & even a way to crack it open will I start Development of my (Mardu) Deck. Right now, I'm still planning for what to put for my MORTAL ENGINES Vorthos Deck, & I already have a decent idea for a CMDR already: Child of Alara . His ability screams "Sixty-Minute War" via his ability. But am I the only person on earth who genuinely LIKES the movie adaptation? I really wish people gave even the works of stuff like Meet the Spartans, Disaster Movie, even Vampires Suck credit after two people are disbarred from making movies; & we have WAY worse now.

That said, I'm still going to do the Movie Version for aforementioned Vorthos Deck. Because it really is worth watching. Why do I feel I'm alone on this...?

...Do I have to reference IKARUGA next? I'll make it my MED-U.S.A. if I have to for a Two-Part Wincon.

That said, I already mentioned the three pieces of MTG's Exodia, the Forbidden One. I just need two others, & a way to crack it open.

Ugh... Do I have to repeat the pieces thus far? I already mentioned 3 confirmed pieces for several posts now. Just look back to them. Ramlethal Valentine of GUILTY GEAR Xrd Fame would tell you so...

Sorry about this post; I've never personally read the books, but I liked the Movie; ALOT. If you think it sucks, at least it's better than three other series' in question that started as Novels, then to Movies worse than MORTAL ENGINES. London says "Hello!" (& Yes, I was intentionally saying that as if I'm a mentally unstable maniac. XD (& Yes, I'm LMFAO; lierally.))

London has a new target. & you are one of them. The Earth has faced its systematic self-genocide. How WILL you like the film, crushed by London's Treads?

April 11, 2019 11:19 a.m.

Chandra585 says... #12

BMHKain you’re not alone about the movie. I also thought it was enjoyable and worth watching.

April 11, 2019 11:27 a.m.

BMHKain says... #13

*Chandra585: (& to think, I was going to get called out for something else that's worse... >,<)

Hmph. Okay. I think I should get back on such a topic in the first place (The decks in question, not other forms of mediums.).

Alright, that out of the way, this might be a bad idea entirely, as I've done this before & got called out for, but I'm thinking of separating the decks in question to individual threads again. Just Bumping all this for little to no response that can work is already causing more of a nuisance that the threads should represent. I'll think about this later. At least I already have a possible representation of Shrike. XP

April 11, 2019 11:39 a.m.

cdkime says... #14

As I mentioned in my prior post, I think Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder would be better than Akiri, Line-Slinger for what you're trying to do.

I will try to get to your other non-Vorthos questions when I can, though I might not be able to for some time.

April 11, 2019 11:48 a.m.

BMHKain says... #15

Fair enough, cdkime. I just simply chose Akiri as she'll have quite a bit of power overtime, though based on that notion, I'm currently focusing on Equipment based Voltron, which I can't seem to find some kind of way for Bruse Tarl to do the same while replacing Akiri. Sorry about this. Tarl does seem awesome, but based on the deck's goal, he doesn't seem to have much to put in; since this is Equip-Voltron after all...

April 11, 2019 noon

cdkime says... #16

I think you missed the point--my point was that Tana, the Bloodsower would be your Voltron engine. In addition to Trample, which is all-important on a Voltron commander, Tana produces chump blockers. One of Voltron's biggest problems is the focus on a single creature leaves you wide open to an enemy's attack, and also leaves you with next-to nothing should your creature be removed. Tana alleviates those problems some.

Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder provides benefits to Tana by giving her double strike at least once (ETB effect) and likely twice (ETB and attack on the next turn). Akiri, Line-Slinger is only useful insofar as she is the Voltron component, and provides no substantial benefit if Tana is your core creature.

April 11, 2019 12:14 p.m.

BMHKain says... #17


Very well, I might as well change the ideas; though the Equipment stays. Even if buffing Saprolings is better than Value through Skullclamp

Got a lot of things to note, though I'll get to them in due time...

One more thing, Now that the Gods of Amonkhet are Eternals as well, 2Q:

1: Is it possible Hazoret the Fervent will be one as well? She truly gave her respect for Samut, & her witnessing aforementioned God as an Eternal (Despite being the only one to not die after the events of HOU (The other gods had a card to represent their way of their death as a Cycle, though Hazoret had a differing idea for this entirely.).), will seriously make Samut Livid beyond the fact that Sorin & Nahiri still have yet to put their differences aside at once, & Nicol Bolas is a common foe of theirs; same for Ugin (Not as an ally of Bolas, obviously.), who I feel might be the last Walker to be revealed in WAR. & the only one to cease a multi-century long conflict with the other Members of The Three.

2: Where is our Jace's Triumph? All the other default Gatewatch members got their Triumph already, so is Jace the true Failure trying to beat Bolas, & his (Now, Pumped up w/ more power) Eternals?

I know this is for another area entirely, but after trying to update my Superfriends Deck again via a Primer, this isn't going to end well, now I have a lot of Walkers to handle in such a thing... Over 120 in my deck, & still growing. I think it's about time some actually use Deploy the Gatewatch

Though, then again, I'm trying to search for a list of cards that can stop Walkers dead in their tracks... I wonder if one even exists...

April 11, 2019 2:08 p.m.

BMHKain says... #18


Well, Jace did get a Triumph after all. But even w/ (Finale of Promise), I still don't know if Sorin vs Nahiri will ever end in a way besides either or both dead on the spot.

Anyways, I'm trying to edit up two decks at the current time to achieve their Max Competitive status (Only 35%. -_-), & my Tetzimoc, Primal Death Deck is almost done as well; I just need 7 cuts; I'll handle this myself.

Despite this, nobody seems to be itching on my ( Ezuri, Claw of Progress +1/+1 Counter Deck.) & I'm going to have to ask AlwaysSleepy again to find more stuff for a Doomsday Package. I only have 3/5 bits confirmed. I just need 2 more; and/or a way to crack the pile open.

All that, set in stone, I'll have to wait on MORTAL ENGINES Vorthos for now... God be damned if Hazoret becomes an Eternal God... X/

April 12, 2019 11:06 a.m.

BMHKain says... #19


I've revived this topic all over again. Do you guys want to help on any of this at all? I'd really appreciate it. ^_^

April 21, 2019 1:47 a.m.

BMHKain says... #20


I don't suppose anyone wants to help?

Maybe I could do the comments in the Decks themselves?

April 22, 2019 11:59 a.m.

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