- 4x Bristling Hydra
- 1x Carnage Tyrant
- 3x Glorybringer
- 4x Longtusk Cub
- 1x Rhonas the Indomitable
- 4x Rogue Refiner
- 4x Servant of the Conduit
- 3x Whirler Virtuoso
- 4x Aether Hub
- 4x Botanical Sanctum
- 4x Forest
- 1x Island
- 2x Mountain
- 1x Rootbound Crag
- 4x Sheltered Thicket
- 2x Spirebluff Canal
Nice build! I agree, Carnage Tyrant is going to be ridiculous, can't wait to try it out.
September 3, 2017 4:54 p.m.
Thanks! The deck which gives this one the most problems is control. But with two Carnage Tyrant post SB, there's absolutely nothing the opponent can do about that card. Plus other top tier decks like zombies will disappear in a few weeks.
September 3, 2017 4:59 p.m.
Wow, this is definitely an interesting build. Thumbs up!
September 3, 2017 5:59 p.m.
Here's some changes I would make to this deck. Let's discuss :)
-1 Whirler Virtuoso +1 Rhonas the Indomitable losing a whirler won't affect much and having the option of a sticky threat that can hand out trample to other creatures seems good in a deck like this. You won't get him every game but when you do I feel he will make an impact.
It will be interesting to see how the meta shakes out post rotation. You should start looking at stuff like Dimir Pirates because that looks to be a tier 1-1.5 deck as a tempo aggro with lots of flying / confiscation stuff. How would you sideboard against it?
September 11, 2017 7:59 a.m.
Very true there will be new decks post rotation such as Dimir/Grixis pirates and Gruul/Naya dinos. I've tested against lots of hypothetical dino decks and Temur holds up very well, especially post SB. Pirates seems a little more of a question mark. I need to take a look at some more pirate decks and see how Temur energy fairs. The only good thing is a tribal deck where all creatures are coming from a single set probably won't have enough to make it full-on Tier 1, maybe more of a 1.5. My gut tells me ramping dinos will be more prevalent since they can already make use to to older cards to get the job done. Nevertheless, you are right, I need to be prepared for pirates.
I too dislike always-tapped lands, however, the cycling is very useful. Also, Sheltered Thicket counts as a Mountain Forest, which is not super relevant except for Rootbound Crag. I think a -1/+1 alteration may be in order though. I will say, the mana base between Servant of the Conduit, Attune with Aether, and Aether Hub works out beautifully.
Whirler Virtuoso is probably my least favorite card in this deck, and if I were going to take something out for Rhonas, it would be Whirler. I did have Rhonas in here before but traded him for Nissa, Steward of Elements because I like the utility and late game win-out-of-nowhere if you have eight mana sources. I will test +1 Rhonas, -1 Whirler and see how it goes. I think you might be right here.
September 11, 2017 11:21 a.m.
As an add-on, I think pirates might turn out like vampires. Something WOTC really tries to push but just isn't as competitive as "good stuff" decks.
September 11, 2017 11:24 a.m.
It's possible that pirates won't take off. What I'm looking at mainly is the fact that you have anthem effects (Favorable Winds + Admiral Beckett Brass), mixed in with pirates who fly (Storm Fleet Aerialist + others), mixed in with powerful etb effects (Kitesail Freebooter + Siren Stormtamer + Hostage Taker for example), card draw designed for this deck, tempo gains (various) and counterspells (Lookout's Dispersal + Spell Pierce).. I think the deck will build itself very easily. Add in all the stuff from the previous sets and you have a very coherent and powerful deck.
September 11, 2017 2:02 p.m.
It could certainly be a viable build, and if it turns out to give me some trouble I may add more Sweltering Suns to the sideboard since all the pirates seem to have three toughness or lower. Then, even if they have Admiral Beckett Brass out, when Beckett dies from Suns, the other pirates lose their extra toughness and die from being dealt three damage and having three or less toughness, except they won't have Ramunap Ruins to try and finish me off later. Spell Pierce and similar are annoying, but post-SB against a deck like Grixis pirates, I would bring in 3-4 Sweltering Suns, Spell Pierce of my own, Jace's Defeat, possibly Supreme Will, etc.
September 11, 2017 4:03 p.m.
That sounds good, and you also have a sheer creature size advantage in Temur that lends itself well to forcing the opponent to have to deal with you, preferably by sending multiple units to block a single one of your own. I look forward to Ixalan :D
September 11, 2017 4:10 p.m.
That is also true. Bristling Hydra gets out of control pretty quickly and most of the time I can make him hexproof in response to removal.
I too am excited for Ixalan. Only a couple more weeks!
September 11, 2017 4:16 p.m.
I think Ripjaw Raptor is an awesome card that fits really well in a dino-themed deck because of all the synergy and extra benefits he gets from his fellow dinos. While I will playtest him in this deck, I just don't think he'll ever outshine Bristling Hydra for the 4-drop slot and same exact mana cost. Once the hydra hits, he's practically un-removable unless they board wipe or want to block with multiples. With all the extra energy lying around in this deck, Bristling Hydra just synergizes much better than Ripjaw Raptor. In a gruul/naya dino deck though, I'd take the raptor.
September 17, 2017 1:17 p.m.
I see. I was kind of thinking the same thing but I've seen a lot of talk about how Ripjaw Raptor is like the best new card for this deck. I agree with Carnage Tyrant being included, great card.
September 17, 2017 1:23 p.m.
Ripjaw also does well in decks that use Walking Ballista. Like b/g energy decks with the snake etc.. No good in Temur Energy though.
September 17, 2017 2:04 p.m.
Yeah, Carnage Tyrant cleans up the game. I have seen some discussion about a 2-2 split between Ripjaw Raptor and Bristling Hydra, and I think it's worth exploring, but so far I think the hydra holds his own against the raptor in this particular deck.
September 17, 2017 2:06 p.m.
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This deck is not Standard legal.Highlight illegal cards
|Illegal cards||Carnage Tyrant, Rootbound Crag , Carnage Tyrant, Spell Pierce|
|Folders||Standard, Standard, Standard, Dinosaurs, Standard Ideas, std, Pirates & Dinos, Standard decks, Others, Need to playtest, See all 12|
|Top rank||#11 on 2017-09-13|