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Don't forget to +1 if you like!!!

Saw some of the synergies with +1/+1 counters and tokens and wanted to see if a deck was viable. Ended up with some of the original GW token shell adding in some new Kaladesh cards. I think this looks pretty strong. Going to play test it and see what plays well and what needs removed.

Creatures:

Lambholt Pacifist  Flip Very fast in this deck, puts a ton of pressure on

Rishkar, Peema Renegade Counters and mana excelleration

Archangel Avacyn  Flip She is just so good

Walking Ballista so good with the counter theme, removes any problem creatures/planeswalkers and can deal damage straight to the face

Verdurous Gearhulk Four counters plus a 4/4 body!

Artifacts/Enchantments

Oath of Nissa filter and gets plainswalkers down easier

Heart of Kiran 4/4 Flying/vigilance gives us blocking and evasive attacking options

Suggestions

Updates

I updated the sideboard to include some cards for match ups against hard creature removal. (Burn/BW Control) The thought here is to use Blossoming Defense to protect creatures from targeted removal. Another thought was to use Aid from the Cowl as a kind of evolutionary leap to keep dropping threats that they just cant deal with. Also, this card can filter to the bottom what you don't want. Lastly, use Rishkar's Expertise to draw cards and keep pressure on. As always, I love all the feedback!!

Comments

aekrusty says... #1

Nice deck +1. Could you upvote my Brago Azorius ETB?

September 17, 2016 8:52 p.m.

K0ch3 says... #2

I'm working on one of these as well. What do you think of oath of gideon? Gets you the tokens off the bat then turn four you can ultimate gideon without losing him because of the extra loyalty counter. Also was looking at running smuggler's copter.

October 2, 2016 9:56 a.m.

khucker says... #3

I agree wholeheartedly on the Smuggler's Copter, changes will be up now. I could see Oath of Gideon having a potential spot. I will have to see how it plays and what could be removed for it.

October 2, 2016 10:41 p.m.

liljramos88 says... #4

Love the deck I also run a Token deck but on a Budget anyways love the deck Plus 1 feel free to check my Budget option for a Budget Selesnya Token. Why no Servo Exhibition?

October 8, 2016 11:21 p.m.

khucker says... #5

Thanks liljramos88. It has been performing very solid. I will check yours out now!

October 9, 2016 9:07 a.m.

K0ch3 says... #6

khucker I started with G/W but ended up splashing red for Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Arlinn Kord  Flip and Hanweir Garrison. Play testing seems to work but haven't played at FNM yet. Check out mine Naya Tokens (KLD) +1 from me though

October 9, 2016 11:40 a.m.

Elshinare says... #7

what's this going to look like with smuggler's copter being banned?

January 9, 2017 9:15 p.m.

khucker says... #8

Elshinare, I am thinking replacements between Ajani Unyielding, Oath of Ajani and one or so Heart of Kiran to name a few. I could see all of these having nice utility in this deck.

January 9, 2017 9:31 p.m.

Elshinare says... #9

My own deck I'm probably throwing in Heart of Kiran, although I have been having fun with Renegade Freighter

January 9, 2017 10:25 p.m.

Holschi says... #10

First of all--> I like your Deck. I love G/W Token ever since it came up.

You might want to think about testing some of the following cards:

Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter: Same stats as Thraben Inspector but can generate Servos or huge Boys once your strategy is running.

Servo Exhibition: If you want to go wide this could help

Sram's Expertise: Seems like a Auto include to me

Walking Ballista: i conjunction with the +1/+1 Counter theme this Card is really good. Might be some Kind of extra removal

January 12, 2017 1:40 a.m.

khucker says... #11

Holschi, thanks for the upvote and great suggestions! Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter was in the original build but ended up being cut because there never seemed to be enough mana to activate her abilities. Instead, I opted to go for the clue with Thraben Inspector and give myself an extra card. I agree that Sram's Expertise needs to find a home here, I'm just not sure what to take out. It also seems like it is a better version of Servo Exhibition. Walking Ballista is an interesting card and I see it fitting well. It may find a spot in the sideboard for now as I continue to play test and see what meshes well and what does not. Thanks again!

January 12, 2017 8:51 a.m.

I like it, but I hate it at the same time. Now hear me out, here's why. ALL THE 3 OF's! I find having 3 of's very inconsistent in the deck building process. And if you really wanted to, Tireless Tracker can be pushed down to either a 1 of or 2 of. It has found solace and more usefulness in sideboards because it helps with the long, grindy games post board. I also don't think Ajani is very good in this particular deck mainly because you are going big with value creatures with the potential to go wide, and a 6 cmc Ajani just seems...meh. If you are using him for his -2, just use a spell for that spot. Basically this deck will work wonders once you can get into 2 spells a turn territory because everything is just value. And I highly dislike Collective Effort. Just use a different pump for your team such as another Oath of Ajani. I find that this Oath should be a 4 of, if not, at least a 3 of. This card will put your creatures over the top. Also, I would like to see Thalia, Heretic Cathar in this deck as potentially a 2 of main board. Think about it, she stops Turn 4 Saheeli combo. BOOM! Also, I don't think Skysovereign is where this deck wants to be heading. My suggestions in a nutshell by CMC:

5CMC

2x Avacyn

2x V Gearhulk

4CMC

4x Gideon

2x Sram's Expertise

3CMC

4x Nissa, Voice of Zendikar

2x Thalia, Heretic Cathar

2x Stasis Snare

2CMC

4x Sylvan Advocate

2x Declaration in Stone

3x Oath of Ajani

2x Selfless Spirit

1CMC

4x Thraben Inspector

3x Oath of Nissa

24 Lands

January 12, 2017 8:26 p.m.

khucker says... #13

UpperDeckerTaco, I appreciate the feedback! Your points are valid and may help improve the deck. The collective effort may be able to come out as it was in there for its versatility as a pump spell or to deal with Emrukal, as she is now banned, most other threats I should be able to deal with just by shear size. Tireless tracker is a superstar though on value and card advantage if not dealt with quickly by my opponent. It also draws all the attention letting everything else go big as opponents focus on it trying to eliminate the gaining of clues. Good point on including Thalia, she was originally in the deck then ended up out, if I can squeeze her back in I will. I see you also suggest lowering Sram's Expertise down to two. I wasn't sure how many to put in, I will play test it both ways to see what seems to work better. I think you may be right though and two will be enough. Also, what are your thoughts on Angel of Invention? Before rotation I had two in the maindeck and she really did kick butt. My reasoning for dropping her was using Oath of Ajani to buff everything instead of her and making the plainswalkers cost less, however her ability to make two tokens and anthem has been awesome.

January 12, 2017 10:39 p.m.

I find the Oath to be more valuable in the main deck.

January 12, 2017 11:06 p.m.

BioProfDude says... #15

I think that Aethersphere Harvester will give you more value than Heart of Kiran. While Heart of Kiran has vigilance, and that is definitely great, I think that the extra toughness and the cheaper crew cost and the lifelink make Aethersphere Harvester a better overall value. Just my opinion, anyway.

While Oath of Nissa is a pretty good card, I think the Aether Revolt expansion will lead to a lot of servos and thopters, so I think that an additional couple of Declaration in Stone would be better for you mainboard. Opponents will be looking for servos to sacrifice for revolt triggers, and clearing the board of those will be essential.

Cool deck! Good luck!

January 15, 2017 10:13 p.m.

khucker says... #16

BioProfDude, Aethersphere Harvester is a good card and could easily be swapped out for playstyle. I like Heart of Kiran for the reason that it can be crewed with loyalty counters and with vigilance it is going to be almost always available. Also, with nine planeswalkers there should not be a problem crewing it. I moved the bulk of the Declaration in Stones to the sideboard to have Stasis Snare mainboard for the Saheeli Rai combo. These could easily be swapped according to local meta's. Thanks for your feedback!

January 16, 2017 4:20 p.m.

BioProfDude says... #17

Another card to consider would be Quarantine Field. It can get multiple targets, as long as you have mana. This could be useful late game. No flash, as with Stasis Snare, though. Just a thought!

January 16, 2017 5:40 p.m.

khucker says... #18

BioProfDude, it certainly would help end a board stall late game. I probably need to include a copy of it in the sideboard if I play a big creature deck.

January 16, 2017 9:24 p.m.

Noctem says... #19

I copied this from your latest update:

I updated the sideboard to include some cards for match ups against hard creature removal. (Burn/BW Control) The thought here is to use Blossoming Defense to protect creatures from sweepers

The bolded part is not true. Hexproof cannot protect a creature from a sweeper like Kozilek's Return or Yahenni's Expertise because neither targets a creature. It would protect a creature from targeted removal though like Shock, but I gather you know that.

January 19, 2017 9:55 a.m.

khucker says... #20

Noctem, you are correct and I fixed that update. I was going to use Heroic Intervention as it gives all creatures hexproof and indestructible, then I realized that it still would not save them from Yahenni's Expertise, so I opted for blossoming defense to try and protect from targeted removal with less mana cost. When I switched I didn't update my wording correctly, thanks for pointing this out. BW Control seems to be the toughest match-up this deck has. Most other archetypes I have been able to regularly beat.

January 19, 2017 10:28 a.m.

Noctem says... #21

I've been playtesting and I have to say that this deck seems weak vs most control shells. Any combination of blue (counterspells) and black (quality removal) will mean the deck will struggle. I think that one of the easier ways to help here would be to put Thalia, Heretic Cathar in the main. They might not have creatures, but their lands coming into play tapped can really put a wrench in their plans.

January 19, 2017 10:32 a.m.

khucker says... #22

Noctem, solid point! I will playtest this and see what to take out to make room. I playtested around 10 games against my brother who was running a Baral/counterspell/gearhulk deck and never lost. However; that was just one shell and there are so many variations and of course luck can play into it as well. Overall, he just couldn't counter enough of my threats before I overran him. Sometimes he could stall but eventually the end was the same. Now, the black deck has been a problem with the sweepers. Getting 2 and 3 creatures taken out by one card leaves no gas left in hand. I have been changing how I play against black control and trying to figure out a sideboard solution to it. I am legitimately worried that black control will be a big part of the meta.

January 19, 2017 11:45 a.m.

Noctem says... #23

I'm surprised you dropped Sram's Expertise. What prompted that choice?

January 23, 2017 1:43 p.m.

Noctem says... #24

The deck lists for the latest standard event has been posted. This list piloted by Hunter Nance made it to 4th place:

http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=14512&d=287024&f=ST

It has many similarities to yours but I think you could still get some good info from it.

January 23, 2017 1:48 p.m.

khucker says... #25

Noctem, you are absolutely right! I watched the open on Twitch all weekend. I was very excited to see GW Tokens place 4th and 9th! After watching I have made a few adjustments to my list. Oath of Ajani while good has felt a little clunky and Walking Ballista is an awesome card in this list. My playlist has been adjusted to show these changes. I am continuing to playtest these changes and can't wait to try this out at gameday!

January 23, 2017 2:57 p.m.

Noctem says... #26

If you're not going to run Thalia, Heretic Cathar in the main, then you NEED to run Authority of the Consuls instead. You cannot afford to have no answer to the combo game 1 and then only 2-3 answers post sideboard in game 2. Seems like a bad idea.

January 24, 2017 1:48 p.m.

So I play a different version of this same deck and a friend of mine runs the Copy Cat deck. The matchup is actually very favorable for GW Tokens, as having your creatures or planeswalkers killed or countered doesn't hurt all too bad, letting you just play something else the next turn. I run 4 Stasis Snares in my deck which can instantly shut down the Copy Cat combo. Not only can it, but it does, often times winning me the game. Of course not every game is the same, and infinite combos will sometimes win. Lastly, another card to consider to shut down copy cat would be Repel the Abominable. On another note, I would highly consider running Oath of Ajani as its +1 on every creature is very valuable.

This is what I run for reference: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/21-01-17-qUp-gw-tokens/

January 30, 2017 9:52 a.m.

Snivy__ says... #28

Where df are the Winding Constrictors!?!??!?!?!?

March 11, 2017 9:05 a.m.

Snivy__ says... #29

Plus this isnt even Tokens!!!!!

March 11, 2017 9:05 a.m.

Noctem says... #30

Wrong colors for winding constrictor.. obviously.

This is an updated (for the current format) version of an old g/w token list. Make your own if you want.

March 11, 2017 11:35 a.m.

Nice deck. Please check out my build. Gideon's last stand G/W.

March 24, 2017 3:29 p.m.

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This deck is Standard legal.

Cards 60
Avg. CMC 2.50
Tokens 0/1 Plant, 1/1 Human Cleric, Gideon, Clue, 2/2 Knight Ally
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