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| Format | Legality |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Historic Brawl | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Griselbrand
Legendary Creature — Demon
Flying, lifelink
Pay 7 life: Draw seven cards.
wallisface on Is Anyone Else Concerned with …
6 months ago
Frenzied Baloth has a lot of abilities but the vast majority of them are only extremely-situationally relevant. It is not part of the 50 most played creatures in standard, and obviously sees no play in any other formats, so the card can hardly be considered overpowered at all.
9 mana to cast a creature like Zacama, Primal Calamity is extremely steep. In modern most 6-7 cost creatures like Primeval Titan or Griselbrand just win the game immediately. Note also that in practically all formats you wouldn’t ever want to cast a card costing this much mana, because the cost its just too high. This card has the effects you should expect for something costing a whopping 9 mana.
I feel you need to find a way to apply objective metrics to determine a cards power, instead of relying on your own intuition/judgement (which, with all-die respect, seems flawed). Check out card play-rates in formats, for example. Overpowered cards are typically either over-represented in one-or-more formats, or have been banned in one-or-more formats. They’ll often also show up in decks that are just doing “goodstuff” (i.e. decks without any coherent gameplan other than just trying to out-value the opponent).
StopShot on In your opinion: what was …
8 months ago
What came before the first Commander product.
The first Commander product, Commander 2011, came out after New Phyrexia, with the Scars of Mirrodin block being infamous for creating the keyword Infect which is an incredibly powerful keyword in the Commander format, but can be argued was not designed with Commander in mind because of how it was obviously meant for 20 life formats and has never shown up as a keyword in any base commander product since its debut.
What came after the first Commander product.
Just like how powerful infect could be, after Scars of Mirrodin came the Innistrad block which would create Commander staples still used today like Blasphemous Act, Craterhoof Behemoth and Laboratory Maniac, but could you argue WoTC pushed these cards for Commander players? I don't think what Commander staples printed in a set is an apt indicator of what influence Commander has on any given Standard set, after all Avacyn Restored released Griselbrand, a card WoTC would never have created in today's Standard sets given how much the Commander format plays a role in their current set design.
How the Griselbrand standard may answer this question.
I think a more appropriate metric is to apply what I would dub the Griselbrand standard when assessing Standard sets. The Griselbrand standard is cards or mechanics that would be fine in a 20 life 1v1 block constructed format but would obviously have no business ever being in a marketed product for a 40 life multiplayer format, with other examples of the Griselbrand standard being infect, Serra Ascendant, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, etc. Not every Standard set needs a Griselbrand-like card or mechanic to determine if the Commander format played a role in its set design. Instead, it should be asked, at what point did the Griselbrand standard die in MTG Standard set design to make way for the Commander format? I feel this is a more appropriate question to ask to determine when Commander started to take effect on Standard set design, and I'm curious to hear what set you think would best mark this transition into the Standard sets we see today.
Bookrook on Pattern Recognition #352 - Momir …
1 year ago
berryjon thanks! I swear I’m not a WOTC employee and had no clue that this event was going to start. I played a game where I got pretty much the best stuff possible. I got Dinrova Horror into Toxril, The Corrosive into Griselbrand into Blazing Archon. My opponent just conceded at that point. I was looking for more of the Momir strategy than raw gameplay. Don’t get me wrong, I love that you made an entire article with over a half hour of gameplay just on my request, thank you. Do you know any strategy that helps you win more matches? “I’ll take the murderous rider because I’m a bastard.” That quote will inspire me forever.
DarkKiridon on monoblack commander building help!
1 year ago
Personally I don't think I can help you with the mono black space which is a shame because I've always wanted to make a K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth deck ( because my last name is Kirk), but not sure how I would start going about it. Don't think I'm "intelligent" enough to pilot one.
If you haven't yet, you can try Massacre Girl's EDHrec page.
Also came here to tell you that Griselbrand isn't legal in EDH/Commander (Unless you playgroup doesn't care about banned cards).
RockIV on monoblack commander building help!
1 year ago
hi everyone im building a monoblack commander deck, and im a little lost on how to make it functional.
this is my deck, i tried to get the best monoblack cards that i have. but i feel the deck is not well builded.
i have some good cards that i didnt add. I have some reanimator deck posibilities , but i dont know if adding them would be a good move. Animate Dead, Buried Alive, Entomb, Exhume, Griselbrand, Reanimate, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Entomb
i have other options that i dindt choose i have some zombie lord type cards, but i feel i dont have that many zombies to make them functional.
what do you guys think? should i add the reanimator type cards?, or maybe take out some removal for other cards, what changes would you guys do to this commander?
ty for reading
Icbrgr on Hilarious whiff and miss
1 year ago
I was playing a casual game with my brother yesterday essentially playtesting our modern decks with some new cards we got before going to our LGS next week... he is playtesting jeskai control and im playing my Hollow One brew.
here is the story.... we were in the end game (passed turn 5) and i successfully resolve Goryo's Vengeance bringing back Griselbrand.... after attacking my brother is in bolt range and all 4 copies of my Lightning Bolt are still in my library... i activated Gris twice bringing myself down to 1 life... drew 14 cards and not a single lightning bolt.... lost next turn on the crack back to Kaheera, the Orphanguard.
Im not sure if im salty or impressed.
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