Mana flooding is a good thing?!?!?!
Commander / EDH
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Mirage Mirror . Make it a copy of a creature with a landfall trigger to benifit twice. Or a copy of anything that benefits you. It's so versatile!
February 22, 2019 7:55 p.m.
Brutal_B, that seems like a good idea, except I can't copy my commander with it, which is the permanent I would want to copy the most. It still seems good when I consider I can copy the cards that grant me extra land drops, but without the ability to copy my commander, I don't know what's worth cutting to run it.
What would be the ruling on this card if I copied multiple permanents that granted me extra land drops in the same turn (for example, I copy Exploration , then Oracle of Mul Daya , then Exploration again in the same turn), do they count as already used land drops, or do they count as a new permanent so I get another drop?
February 25, 2019 12:37 a.m. Edited.
I'd say cut Bane of Progress since you don't want to blow up your own exploration and burgeoning and stuff
February 25, 2019 12:38 a.m.
Meurth, Bane helps me more than hurts me because more often than not, I just take out my own Exploration and Burgeoning after they have already served their use for me. I then gain more value by obliterating my opponent's mana rocks and value artifacts/enchantments. This benefits me more than hurts me because I run fewer mana rocks than the average commander deck. I also come across enchantment based prison decks or artifact based stax decks pretty frequently, so Bane is a great card that can shut them down for a few turns. If I'm in a position where I have a lot of good artifacts and enchantments on the board and playing Bane would hurt me, I just simply don't cast or tutor for the card.
Temple of the False God was in an earlier version of the deck, but I ended up cutting it because it's a dead card if I draw it before I can cast my commander. Sometimes it even ends up in my opening hand, where I wish it was a land that could actually give me mana early in the game.
February 25, 2019 12:44 a.m. Edited.
I've had some success with my list, Tatyova Landball. Manually drawing the deck is a lot faster than assembling a combo, I've found.
March 23, 2019 11:48 p.m.
douglaspotesta says... #8
Your deck doesn't seem to have any sac outlets. I would recommend Perilous Forays since it works well with Avenger of Zendikar , Rampaging Baloths , and Tatyova, Benthic Druid . Also if you throw in Amulet of Vigor any lands you get will come in untapped.
April 3, 2019 8:03 p.m.
douglaspotesta why would I want to have a sac outlet in this deck? I have no synergies that benefit from sacrificing creatures here, and I only have a few cards that would want me to sacrifice lands which I can fully take advantage of with cards like Crucible of Worlds .
Why would I need Amulet of Vigor when all my lands can enter untapped anyway?
April 4, 2019 12:25 p.m. Edited.
douglaspotesta says... #10
Cultivate Kodama's Reach Scapeshift Sakura-Tribe Elder Thrasios, Triton Hero
All the above put lands in to play tapped. The sac outlet is useful for when people use removal on your board. Perilous Forays allows you to sac creatures in response, get lands (with Amulet of Vigor out they come in untapped), then with commander draw off the lands entering. If you have a Rampaging Baloths out you also break even on creatures and can put all of your lands in to play. This synergy breaks even on mana and draws you cards to potentially answer removal, or have enough card advantage to take over on your turn.
April 5, 2019 1:24 a.m.
douglaspotesta that's actually not a bad idea, and I've been considering cutting Thrasios anyway (I might still want another creature or Dark Depths to replace him in order to maintain a good enough creature balance for Craterhoof Behemoth ). It might take me a while to get around to testing the card though since I don't already have it and I also haven't really been playing in a while. Thanks for the solid argument though.
April 5, 2019 3:15 a.m.
bushido_man96 says... #12
Ghost Town is another solid land inclusion, and works well with Burgeoning to get more land drops for Taty.
I run a more casual build, so these suggestions might not help, but I have a lot of fun playing with Meloku the Clouded Mirror and Patron of the Moon .
June 11, 2019 10:05 p.m.
ugh, Tatyova..
Oh, uh, I mean, awesome list! lol seriously though, love the deck.
September 15, 2019 10:55 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #14
Thought for sure, based on the name, that this was gonna be a Kruphix deck. And while this deck is far too spiky for my little Johnny brain to handle, I understand the care that went into making it. You don't see a lot of Tatyova in cEDH.
October 15, 2019 2:17 a.m.
You built a pretty solid deck around a fairly cheap commander, does Dramatic Reversal have any use to you?
November 12, 2019 12:25 a.m.
Wolfpig, this deck doesn't have that many nonland permanents with tap abilities, so Dramatic Reversal isn't super useful here.
November 12, 2019 11:05 p.m.
SufferFromEDHD says... #18
I run a Temur lands list similar to the strategy of this deck. I'm going to make the same suggestions you ignored previously because they are useful: Deserted Temple , Academy Ruins , Yavimaya Hollow , Tolaria West .
November 13, 2019 11:35 a.m.
SufferFromEDHD What do you mean ignored previously? I just simply don't have room for Deserted Temple or Yavimaya Hollow (I actually like Hollow, I just don't know what I would cut for it), Academy Ruins isn't super useful here because this isn't an artifact strategy. I don't know why you think it would be.
Also, I don't even know if you actually looked at the list because I've been running Tolaria West since I first built the deck. What's the point of suggesting a card that I already run in my list?
November 15, 2019 3:11 a.m.
I would say swap out skyshroud with abundance. Depending what you're going against, mistcaller and Grafdigger's cage would be great if you have a tymna thrasios fish hulk in the group
March 9, 2020 11:29 a.m.
munky702 I already run both Skyshroud claim and Abundance in my deck, so I don't need to cut anything there. I also don't have a consistent playgroup right now because I moved not too long ago, so I have my deck built for approaching brand new playgroups completely blind. I do have to say though, I haven't come across the deck you mentioned yet.
March 9, 2020 2:57 p.m.
That is in an extreme case of competitiveness. Turn 2 wins. With the cards that are Flash and Protean Hulk. Grafdigger's cage will definitely slow it if not just completely stop it from doing anything. For at least a turn or two. And while I'm at it, may want to keep Mistcaller as maybe option as well. Tatyova winning a cedh event not too long ago, they'll be worried about those infinite combos. Keep your head on a swivel.
March 9, 2020 4:31 p.m.
munky702 I haven't kept up with CEDH in a while and while the deck is powerful and has powerful cards in it, this deck also wasn't intended to be built for the top tier CEDH tables. My deck doesn't have infinite combos or win super early. Power level wise, this was always intended to be one level below CEDH, because if I were to sit at such a table, I'd probably play Teferi instead. It does seem unfortunate that this deck might be caught in a potential meta adjustment crossfire from a recent event win, however.
March 9, 2020 11:07 p.m.
potentiallygood, I was when I was first starting to build the deck, but I decided against it because of its triple blue in the mana cost. There's a good chunk of land I run in this deck that are colorless utility lands, and I only have one card in the whole deck that's triple green, and it's am instant speed tutor with convoke. It's going to be less feasible for me to run something that is triple blue without a way to reduce the cost. Also, at 6CMC, I don't think an effect that can be so easily undone with spot removal is really worth it. There's only a very few cards I'd run that are 6+ CMC for this deck, and I don't think this card is worth the mana IMO.
Ballzanya says... #1
Titania, Protector of Argoth , Splendid Reclamation , and Sylvan Awakening seem good here.
February 3, 2019 3:16 a.m.