Yeah, I'm definitely replacing 2 Spitemare with 2 Zada. This is gonna be good. evil laugh

Mana Clash is modern legal and would be kinda fun to throw in this deck too. As long as you have Pariah on the field, there is no downside. lol

Yeah I'm going to cut a Stuffy Doll and a Spitemare and run 2 Zada. Mana Clash is a funny card to play. Its pretty situational though and what would you cut to play it?

Sounds good to me! I also thought of another thing, what about switching out your 4 Figure of Destiny for 4 Vexing Devil Vexing devil has a lot for impact early on and 90% of the time figure of destiny isn't going to be fully evolved into that 8/8 warrior avatar because you're be spending your mana else where. I might buy this deck, it's really interesting to think about and would be fun to play! :D

We've had the Vexing Devil debate before and I can't disagree that vexing devil is an awesome card but he will never hit the battlefield. Figure of Destiny is there to bait opponents into using removal spells. He gets to 4/4 more often than you might think and I'm happy with that because I never expect him to get to 8/8. I need creatures out to make Blasphemous Act cheaper to cast too and if I came up against a deck running vexing devils I would take the 4 damage every time. I'm not against trying it and I've said that I will proxy it up and see what happens but to me it's basically a 4 damage lightening bolt. Not to be sniffed at but I need bodies on the field. If you do go with the devils option let me know how it does.

Ive found Kindle the Carnage to be a very effective win con in decks like this.

That could definitely work as a replacement for Pyroclasm but I would really have to be in a bad situation to willingly discard a card, but I can see why people may play this over pyroclasm. Good suggestion, thanks.

Its not that you would be in a tight situation in order for it to be worth it, it is your win condition basically, you dont need cards in your hand if you just won :)

I see your point. Lol. I didn't read the last part of the card. Being able to keep doing this could be huge, I may buy a playset and get to testing.

Any interest in replacing Gods Willing with some other protection spells - Emerge Unscathed, Faith's Shield ? You could also use Valorous Stance in case you needed its second option.

All good suggestions, thank you. I think I prefer unscathed to the other two just because it's good value. In most circumstances Valorous Stance's second ability would be a bad thing. We want them to be hitting us or to have a creature out that they won't attack with simply to make Blasphemous Act cheaper. Like I said in the description, Gods Willing was only in the deck because I had them and they were better than Cloudshift.

I just found this deck and can't wait to troll people. Thank you

Just seen the changes to the deck. I knew you'd like the Dictate of the Twin Gods.
Just looking at your other additions, and I think you may have underestimated Zada, Hedron Grinder with Arcbond. Because if all of your creatures deal damage to all creatures and players when they take damage, then I think you've won.

Let's say you have 3 creatures out, including Zada. You Arcbond him, which means all your other creatures get it too. Then you Lightning Bolt him, so all your other creatures get Bolted.So, all 3 get 3 damage each, which means that your opponent, their creatures, and yourself, take 9 damage, and your creatures take an additional 6 each (because Arcbond says other creatures). Now, your creatures just took damage, and still have Arcbond on them, so they then redeal that 6 damage to everything, ad infinitum. Now, bear in mind that creatures only get put into the graveyard as a state-based action, if there's something still on the stack then it doesn't check, and this damage goes infinite (to yourself as well, bear in mind).

Or obviously if you use the Boros Charm to make everything indestructible, then the damage also goes infinite. You just need at least 2 creatures that won't die to all the damage, and it goes infinite. Because each trigger of Arcbond on one triggers another Arcbond on the other.

Also, 1 final note, you can't Pariah the cost of Sacred Foundry because it's a life payment, not damage.

Actualy linleya1 you are wrong on one point, Zada doesn't creature infinite loops because the spell "copies" are not considered to be cast and therefor do not trigger his passive twice. For Arcbond to be succesful you need either, A: More health than your opponent or B: Pariah on something like Stuffy Doll

Actualy, I re-read what you meant, and yes if every creature receives arcbond from zada it will loop.

I have actually changed from using Mortal's Ardor to having 2 Emerge Unscathed. That rebound is super helpful and has saved me more than lifelink.

lindleya1, thanks for reminding me about the sacred foundry error in the description. It was meant to get changed in the edit but I forgot about it. I'll admit to underestimating how awesome Zada, Hedron Grinder at first but he now has a permanent home in the deck and I actually managed to use the Arcbond loop with him last week, awesome combo! I may end up running 3 of him and cutting a Figure of Destiny but I haven't really played with the deck in a competitive sense since the changes so not 100% on that point yet. As for Dictate of the Twin Gods, it can be awesome but it's hugely dependant on what deck-type your coming up against. As long as Pariah is in play though I'll slap that card down and smile as i do at the "oh poo" look on my opponent's face. Lol. SturWulf, I get cutting Mortal's Ardor it's place in the deck is looking less and less important following the changes that have been made. I may find myself doing the same and putting Emerge Unscathed in its place and cutting Gods Willing from the sideboard in favour of something a bit more powerful. Not sure what that is at the moment but I'll let you know if I think of anything.

Also, I was thinking of added 2 Pit Fight into the deck to force their creatures to hit mine. Along with the Goblin Diplomats, it makes this deck kinda funny.

What do you think of putting Gideon Jura in?

What about Darksteel Mutation for the creatures that may die when targeted by spells instead of living to get hit again (zada)

Oh, nevermind it make them lose all other abilities q-q

What about Favor of the Mighty to replace Emerge Unscathed?

Or Flickering Ward?