VinylScratch says... #2
Wtf Phage is a WHOREable commander you can never play it! If its your commander you will never have the option to play it from your hand.
September 18, 2013 11:43 a.m.
There is only one way this is possible, with platinum angel on the field. This makes the deck extremely weak and you can lose easily. Your command zone isn't a part of the deck so that doesn't work.
September 18, 2013 11:43 a.m.
There are 2 more ways in the deck: Topor Orb and Sundial of the Infinite.
Despite that, though, she still is a bad commander. Just because there are a total of 3 ways to get her out doesn't change that.
September 18, 2013 11:47 a.m.
He_Who_Seizes_Thoughtseize says... #6
Actually, I can also counter her and get her from graveyard to hand.
September 18, 2013 11:54 a.m.
You're going all out with that Koskun Falls ...Oh, yeah. And the Nether Void . This looks solid, but I still think you need to find more ways to play/counter/remove Phage's ability in order for her to be consistent. All things aside, this is hilarious.
September 18, 2013 3:22 p.m.
I agree, haters be damned. To all those saying it can't be done, trust me, it can. Black has enough tutors to find multiple ways of preventing Phage's ability from killing you.
September 18, 2013 10:21 p.m.
I know someone with a Phage deck and he includes Lethal Vapors for (I imagine) the same reason you would: Your deck includes few creatures compared to most commander decks.
September 19, 2013 2:31 a.m.
VinylScratch says... #10
when a commander dies it goes to the commander area not the grave
September 19, 2013 3:45 p.m.
He_Who_Seizes_Thoughtseize says... #11
It's owner has decision of where it goes.
September 19, 2013 3:51 p.m.
No Platinum Angel ? Seems like another good option (next to the Sundial and the Orb) to get Phage out. Also, if you're in a bind you can play it and Abyssal Persecutor and hope to confuse your opponents to death.
September 20, 2013 9:16 a.m.
DimirGuard says... #13
I agree with Casey4321, I would suggest Rogue's Passage . Just one more way to get Phage through.
September 20, 2013 7:46 p.m.
Crypt Ghast cannot be used in this deck. Extort requires a white/black general.
September 22, 2013 11:45 a.m.
Crypt Ghast is fine, the White in extort does not count as Color Identity because it is between ( )
September 22, 2013 noon
I think you could use another General, move Phage to mainboard, and use ways to tutor for her as a win condition. But the overall idea of using her gets +1 alone. You are crazy!
September 22, 2013 12:03 p.m.
Why is Phage your general? When you play it you lose the game...
September 22, 2013 10:40 p.m.
atkboy4242 says... #20
There are things that prevent that from happening. Read the comments. Btw, awesome deck. I've been wanting to build my own for a while
September 23, 2013 3:05 p.m.
OK so you're relying on Platinum Angel and Torpor Orb to get Phage into play. Did I get that right? Are there any other cards you're using that I missed? Is that really consistent enough for you? And seriously why not just mention that in the Deck Description section to stop confusing people lol
How about adding Phyrexian Arena ? And, while you're already relying on Torpor Orb as a crucial part of your deck's combo, why not add some other sweet bombs that work well with it? For example, Phyrexian Dreadnought . Oh baby that would be sweet.
September 24, 2013 12:06 a.m.
Sundial of the Infinite also works for getting Phage into play. You let her resolve, then end the turn while her ETB trigger is on the stack, countering it.
September 24, 2013 9:09 a.m.
Here's what I would add:
Sensei's Divining Top , Sol Ring , Relic of Progenitus , Fleshbag Marauder , Skullclamp , Gravecrawler , Bloodghast , Hero's Downfall , Lord of the Void , Strip Mine , Phyrexian Tower , Hymn to Tourach . These all add consistency to a somewhat combo deck that has little chance of working according to planned.
Also, I would remove the following cards because they lack significant impact or simply help the opponnent too much: Maralen of the Mornsong , Dash Hopes , Funeral Charm , Slaughter Pact , Go for the Throat , Wall of Souls , Abyssal Persecutor , Thrull Wizard
September 29, 2013 1:48 p.m.
@LordSIX: All I read was "I would add these generic EDH staples and remove a bunch of the fun cards". I get the impression from the choice of commander alone that this isn't meant to be a competitive deck but a fun one.
September 29, 2013 3:46 p.m.
LordSIX also, some of the counterspells are used to counter Phage and later reanimate her...
also, I second Rogue's Passage .
Casey4321 says... #1
Rogue's Passage
September 18, 2013 11:43 a.m.