Thornscape Familiar

Thornscape Familiar

Creature — Insect

Red spells and white spells you play cost (1) less to play.

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Planeshift (PLS) Common

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Thornscape Familiar Discussion

Damek57 on Zacama, Primal Calamity EDH

5 months ago

Deck Update 12/11:

I reduced the mana count by 1. But in return added a little more cost reduction and do not see too much of an impact from this particular change. Removed Karametra, God of Harvests , Archangel of Thune , and Aurelia, the Warleader due to them being a bit pricey and slow. Added Wilderness Reclamation , Shifting Ceratops and Atla Palani, Nest Tender in their place. As these cards are faster and synergise a bit better with the deck. Forerunner of the Empire was replaced by Marauding Raptor as it fits into the tribal portion of the deck better and has again more synergy. The Immortal Sun was dropped due to being to pricey and slow as well. Replaced by Urza's Incubator , a cheaper cost reduction. Thornscape Familiar replaced by Knight of the Stampede . This is due to Knight being a bit better of a cost reducer. Rhythm of the Wild added due to being a better weapon against control and has the option to make the dino's bigger or have haste.

KayneMarco on Morophon you die now deck(budget)

5 months ago

Here’s a list of cost reducers that are all budget cards that this deck would really benefit from:

There’s 8 others but they can’t really be considered budget. Another card that is amazing in a dragon deck is Sarkhan the Masterless That static ability is amazing because the damage being done to the attacking creatures is dealt before any combat damage. So if you have 6 dragons out they would deal 6 damage to each creature attacking you before they get a chance to deal any damage themselves.

Goretast on [Primer] Karametra's Bounce House

1 year ago

Hey Vidjalante, thanks for your comment. I'm glad you like the deck! I run Thornscape Familiar because it can be pulled with Protean Hulk to start an infinite combo with Whitemane Lion and Lotus Cobra immediately. It's a very strong combo in the deck that would be even stronger if I can find a spot for Oketra's Monument. I'm still giving some thought on what I want to cut.

Vidjalante on [Primer] Karametra's Bounce House

1 year ago

I think you could drop Thornscape Familiar for Oketra's Monument. Similar effect on each except Monument gives you a little bit more payoff and is a bit harder to remove. :) Love the build; more like Karametra, Jack of all Trades! <3

Coward_Token on Gahiji: Forever War

2 years ago

Very well, here's my latest jank for your consideration (take your time)

Orzhov Advokist: Boosts one of your creatures and tells you ahead of time whether or not someone is planning on attacking you. This potentially lets it both replace one card from Conflict Escalation and another from Deterrence, which would free up a slot for something else. On the downside, it takes a player turn cycle to become relevant and it's more about quality than quantity (although you could use things like Tetravus, Murder Investigation and/or Hangarback Walker to alleviate this, see also about Elemental Mastery below). Another problem is that it doesn't reward people for attacking each other and it's arguably anti-synergetic with Mystic Barrier.

(Invasion Plans/Angel's Trumpet/Total War): Weird group slug cards, dunno if they're too weak compared to e.g. Warmonger Hellkite and/or too prone to backfire.

Ramp:

Harvest Season/(Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip): More powerful yet less reliable alternative to Cultivate. (Although instead of Itlimoc you could just spend hundreds of bucks on a Gaea's Cradle I guess)

(Burgeoning): Cheap and obviously triggers frequently in multiplayer, but conflicts with Oreskos Explorer.

(Thornscape Familiar): The only one in the cost reduction Familiar cycle which affects more than one of the colors in your commander's identity. Aside from Gahiji himself, it works for 33 out of the 99 cards in the current deck (assuming no shenanigans like Celestial Dawn or Feroz's Ban). I dunno if you cast those 33 cards frequently enough per turn to make the cost reduction worthwhile compared to land-based ramp, especially since you got some land matters cards like Mirari's Wake.

Continuing my quest of exhausting every possible card advantage option known to beast, god and man:

Elvish Harbinger: Complement or possibly even a replacement for Wood Elves. Ramps and elf Imperial Seal:s from a pretty diverse pool consisting of Rhys the Redeemed, Reclamation Sage, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirror Entity, Selvala, Explorer Returned & Oracle of Mul Daya. Since it doesn't have flash, unplanned shuffling is my biggest reservation towards this one. (As an optional bonus, it can form the middle of a threefold creature tutor chain with either of the Recruiters and any elf.)

Green Sun's Zenith: Banned in modern and probably something you've already considered. Puts green critters directly onto the battlefield and is self-recurable. It can pick from a pretty diverse pool that includes (among other things) Den Protector, Oracle of Mul Day, Reclamation Sage, Tireless Tracker, Wood Elves, Knight of the Reliquary, Mirri, and Selvala.

Worldly Tutor: Creature Vampiric Tutor, might be a bit slow without an available draw source. (Congregation at Dawn) takes things further, but with the presence of other (shuffling) tutors and a lack of great draw power it seems questionable. Eladamri's Call is the Demonic Tutor equivalent, dunno if it can compete with Green Sun's.

Captain Sisay: Repeatable fetching of Kor Haven, Gisela, Iroas, Rhys, Fumiko, Kazuul, Michiko, Mirri and Selvala. Nothing from the Recon group but I think Kor Haven and Selvala alleviates things.

(Evolutionary Leap): Unsure about this one, but could be nice with things that give a benefit upon death (be it naturally or trough Skullclamp with 2 or more toughness) and/or are disposable (especially cheap ETB creatures that can be recurred with Sun Titan).

(Defense of the Heart): Obviously very powerful if it goes off, but I assume that it's too conditional & vulnerable to removal to be worth it.

Magus of the Wheel: Complement to the classic wheel that's already present. I prefer the Magus over Wheel of Fate & Reforge the Soul due to not requiring you to have all the mana at once and/or because it's more predictable for something that discards your hand (although slower without haste). As a bonus, it's recurable with Sun Titan (and tutorable with either of the Recruiters).

Other misc. cards which you've probably already considered and rejected, but just in case:

(Luminarch Ascension): On one hand, Ant Queen on steroids. On the other, draws a lot of hate and/or takes at least four turns to become not-useless (assuming no helpful proliferation) which makes it more and more of a dead draw over time. (Sacred Mesa is a weird compromise.) There's also Emeria Angel/Retreat to Emeria for if you want to expand on the land subtheme, but it doesn't have the same explosive potential as the aforementioned manasinks (although Hazezon Tamar might be a decent compromise).

Elemental Mastery: Channels a quality creature (e.g. a beefed up Knight of the Reliquary or just Gahiji himself) into a quantity of tokens which better synergizes with Gahiji's ability. On the downside, since the tokens only lasts one turn you can't increase their power on the long term with e.g. Curse of Predation. The card also has the two usual problems associated with Auras in that it requires the presence of an appropriate creature to be useful and that single-target removal against said creature becomes a two-for-one deal (and this is further exasperated by the fact that you're encouraged to increase the power of the creature by e.g. putting counters on it). Also too expensive for Sun Titan. Dragon Throne of Tarkir gives somewhat similar quality-to-quantity conversion in a more resilient equipment form.

(Path of Ancestry) vs one of Temple of Abandon/Temple of Plenty/Temple of Triumph. Less reliable scry that only works with Gahiji & the changeling, but taps for all the relevant colors. Dunno how frequently this is relevant for you.

(Rith, the Awakener): Token generator alternative. I'm guessing you've rejected it because the tokens lack evasion and/or the token generation is too conditional. (But hey, at least it's a combat damage effect for Duelist's Heritage to interact with)

(Marton Stromgald): Potentially explosive token amplification but hard to keep alive.

Mass Hysteria: In case you're not getting enough haste from Slayers' Stronghold. Also works with the group slug aspect, but I dunno if it will backfire by e.g. letting powerful tap abilities come out of nowhere. (There's also Concordant Crossroads if you're not worried about it being replaced by another World Enchantment.) Samut, Voice of Dissent is another option that has quite a few other features as well, but I fear she'll come in a bit too late. Got similar feelings about (Urabrask the Hidden), who's also kinda detrimental to the group slug theme and/or will draw too much hate. ((Akroma's Memorial) is even worse in the lateness department.)

Mogg Infestation/(Settle the Wreckage)/Fell the Mighty/(Righteous Fury)/(Sunblast Angel)/(Angel of the Dire Hour): One of the Token Beatdown variants favors board wipes, but all of the listed cards have a tendency to kill your fatties and leave your opponent's weenies alive. In case you want a source of emergency non-targeted creature removal in the main deck and/or the variant, here's some additional options that can leave your own creatures alive, even if they're a bit more expensive than e.g. Wrath of God (or, in the case of Settle the Wreckage, potentially profitable for an opponent). Special mention to Mogg Infestation for still keeping the group slug going by being Beast Within on steroids & Angel of the Dire Hour for bypassing indestructible in addition to shroud, if that's relevant in your meta (although a plain (Arcane Lighthouse) might be better then).

(Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite): Saving the most prominently obvious card for last, I assume the reason you've rejected it is because it's not explosive enough to act as a 1v1 finisher, while being detrimental to the overall group slug strategy when there's more than one opponent alive.

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