Sickening Dreams

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Sickening Dreams

Sorcery

As an additional cost to play Sickening Dreams, discard X cards.

Sickening Dreams deals X damage to each creature and each player.

AudderPop on Dream Nauseam ($50⁰ ɕƐðɧ)

3 months ago

I want to still be able to survive even if any of our key combo pieces like Sickening Dreams and counterspell protection are at the bottom of the deck.

Profet93 on Dream Nauseam ($50⁰ ɕƐðɧ)

3 months ago

Why do you need to draw your entire deck? Drawing a bit over half should be enough with Sickening Dreams, no? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something.

Cyb3rguerrill0 on Dream Nauseam ($50⁰ ɕƐðɧ)

4 months ago

Ah. I see. Sickening Dreams seems to be one of the wincons, right?

Renzisherekiddo on EDH: Sen Trips Turtle

1 year ago

Greetings, love the deck and how it fits a pretty good budget, but I'm curious as to why you're playing Ad Nauseam as it's usually paired with Angel's Grace and either Sickening Dreams or Thassa's Oracle a combo that usually wins if left unchecked.

I'd probably sub in Stinging Study especially in sen trip since she gets hated off the board frequently it'd also save ~$10

ebillips2003 on 93 Swamp Commander

1 year ago

This deck is made to win on turn five with one combo. If this combo fails or you misplay, you are about 99.9999% likely to lose the game, but that's all part of the fun. Here's the combo: Play Maralen of the Mornsong on turn 3, tutor for Ad Nauseam on turn 4, and then tutor for Culling the Weak on turn 5. Once you have Culling the Weak, cast it and sacrifice Maralen of the Mornsong. If you don't cast Culling the Weak first, you won't have enough mana to fuel the combo. Tap all your swamps so your mana is in float, and play Ad Nauseam. I like to do this now because you'll need all of your mana in float before you play Rain of Filth. Next, cast contamination. This helps ward against counters. Then cast Dark Ritual and Rain of Filth. This should leave you with enough mana to play The Golden Throne followed by Sickening Dreams. Discard all the cards in your hand as the additional cost and enjoy.

WisemanYata on Maralen Cannon

1 year ago

Thank you, I had seen the idea of using Ad Nauseam and effects like Sickening Dreams together in 60 card formats years ago and it blew my mind. Those decks all had serious drawbacks though. They required many tutors (to ensure that you actually draw at least one tutor) and some effect to prevent Sickening Dreams from doing damage to you as well. I figure having a tutor as your commander frees up most of the space in the deck, and using Exsanguinate instead means you don't have to worry about hurting yourself.

The tricky parts about trying to speed up this combo are the ways that the EDH/Commader format restrict card access and the way Ad Nauseam limits itself. Having a 99 Card Library means that you are significantly less likely draw any individual card than you would be in a 60 card format. You could compensate for that by padding the deck with a bunch of tutor and draw effects and a bunch of mana ramp effects, but there aren't very many of those cards with low mana values. Adding higher mana value cards and cards with other effects also means that you can't draw as many times from Ad Nauseam because of its life loss clause for each time you add a card to your hand with its effect. The end result is that adding mana ramp doesn't make you much more likely to get out Maralen out before turn 3, and then you still need to acquire both Skirge Familiar and Ad Nauseam. As far as I can tell, the earliest this type of combo can ever reliably go off in EDH/Commander is turn 5, but I find turn 6 to be more likely.

Even so, turn 6 is not really guaranteed, but it is pretty reliable. There's a fair chance that an opponent will try to stall or answer you (keep in mind that Maralen of the Mornsong forces your opponents to tutor as well) either because they don't know what you're planning and that scares them, or because they do know what you're planning and that scares them even more. So I'd say trying to pop by turn 6 is a realistic goal.

Sorry for the massive wall of text.

adw92 on It'll consist your head off

1 year ago

hoochwindgrass

They are guaranteed to be drawn via Ad Nauseam as long as it isn't countered.

Boseiju, Who Shelters All (I'm assuming) is counter protection for Sickening Dreams (kind of pointless, if your opponents aren't countering Ad Nauseam it's already GG.)

Elixir of Immortality can be tutored by Maralen of the Mornsong on turn 6 if your turn 5 Ad Nauseam is countered, and acts as a reset button.

Metroid_Hybrid on Convoluted Combos

2 years ago

A (relatively) "early" win with the Undying-loop combo with Yawgmoth, Thran Physician sounds rather straightforward, but is actually pretty convoluted in it's execution. It's a 4+ card combo for starters, and then to actually play out all of the moving parts can be quite the pain in the ass for the entire table, especially if you're tapped-out and need to dig through your Library one-by-one until you draw a Lotus Petal, Mana Crypt, and a finisher (in my case either Sickening Dreams or Bitter Ordeal).

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