how does Manabond interact with landfall triggers and card draws?
Asked by Gilenborn 9 years ago
OK, so here's the situation... I have Manabond and Seer's Sundial, Storm Cauldron and Gaea's Cradle on the field (along with several other landfall triggers and creatures)... during my discard step, i elect to put all lands n my hand in play (all 10 cards) and discard the rest (0). Seer's Sundial allows me to draw 10 more cards...
Do I have to discard those newly drawn cards? Can I elect to re-trigger Manabond? Do I just discard down to 7?
Manabond triggers at the beginning of your end step, and lets you put lands into play and discard the rest. Each land you put into play is going to trigger landfall, so in the case of Seer's Sundial ten instances of "you may pay 
, if you do, draw a card" will want to go onto the stack. They won't be able to go onto the stack until the ability from Manabond has finished resolving. So you'll put 10 lands into play, discard 0 cards, and then have 10 instances of an option to pay and if you do, draw card.
Thanks to Storm Cauldron, any time you tap 2 mana to draw a card, you're going to end up with 3 cards in your hand (Or less, depending on how much mana Gaea's Cradle is tapping for), the one you drew from the Sundial and the two lands you tapped for its cost.
The start of your end step has already passed, so you have no ability to "retrigger" Manabond.
Assuming you tapped, say, all 10 lands you put into play from Manabond, and the Gaea's Cradle to pay your 
for the 10 payments for the Sundial, you're going to end up with 11 lands and 10 more cards in your hand after all that has resolved.
If you've only made 1 or 0 actual land plays this turn (Lands put onto the battlefield by Manabond aren't land plays) you could play 1 or 2 of those lands as your land plays for the turn (The 1 you always get and the additional one from Storm Cauldron) leaving you with something like 19 cards in your hand, and you will have to discard down to your maximum hand size, which I will assume is still 7.
January 1, 2015 10:14 a.m.
Devonin: lands can only be played during one of your main phases, with nothing on the stack. So he will not be able to play lands during his end step.
January 1, 2015 2:48 p.m.
Yeah, that's true, I was more just thinking about how he'd not be discarding as many cards. Yeah, you'll just have to plain old discard down to 7
January 1, 2015 2:52 p.m.
thanks for the help... that's really what I was figuring, but I figured I'd ask to clarify... Someone tied to pull something similar to that over on me last week, and when I was gold fishing my deck, I came across the situation above...
filledelanuit says... Accepted answer #1
I am just copy pasting my answer from the thread.
Anyways, to answer your question. First we need to look at the oracle text of Manabond. It now triggers at the beginning of your endstep. The beginning of your end step only happens once so it will only trigger once.
Sort of. After your end step come the cleanup step where you have to discard down to 7 cards. This comes after you have finished with your end step so you have to discard the cards drawn with Seer's Sundial.
Nope. Cards only trigger when their trigger condition is true and they aren't like activated abilities.
See number one.
January 1, 2015 10:08 a.m.