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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal



As Lich enters the battlefield, you lose life equal to your life total.

You don't lose the game for having 0 or less life.

If you would gain life, draw that many cards instead.

Whenever you're dealt damage, sacrifice that many nontoken permanents. If you can't, you lose the game.

When Lich is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you lose the game.

Votecat on The Queen's Egg

1 year ago

What do you think about using Screeching Sliver to deal with cards such as Phyrexian Unlife or Lich?

Lhurgyof on Oh geez Rick...

1 year ago

Repay in Kind is great for suicide black decks.

So is Lich if you can get your hands on one.

+1 from me, I have a suicide deck too:

Endless Spite

Commander / EDH Lhurgyof


ENZU on Orphans

1 year ago

Something else thats been abandoned are Lich, Lich's Mastery, Immortal Coil, and Forbidden Crypt.

Id love to see them actually work in a deck that doesnt just try to donate them.

Asgeren on Fuck my life.

2 years ago

Maybe something like Lich could work in the deck?

3n3rgy2 on Aetherlich

2 years ago

MFBOOM No. The only things in the game that lead to damage are —

  1. Combat damage from creatures as the combat damage step begins (C.R. 510.2), and actions of the form "[source] deal(s) ... damage" or "damage ... is dealt to".

If you have Lich in play and somebody points a Lightning Bolt at your face, then you're correct, you're losing things in play.

Note also that damage to players USUALLY causes loss of life, but not always (C.R. 119.3). Life loss is not damage. Damage usually results in life loss, corner cases exist in terms of infect for example. Other corner cases exist with cards that say you cannot take damage like Platinum Emperion.

Sometimes, damage does not result in life loss (if the source of damage had infect, for example, or the player receiving the damage controls Platinum Emperion).

If you have Glacial Chasm out, something like Impact Tremors will not deal you damage but if someone casts Exsanguinate you will still lose life even though you've got a "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you." effect in play.

We are basically we are going down a rabbit hole here. Long story short, google "Is loss of life damage?" and you will find 800 people who will explain it better than me. I promise you, it does work that way with Lich. Damage causes loss of life. Losing life does not equate to being dealt damage.

Yesterday on Looking for black enchantments with …

2 years ago

Mono Black can't typically remove its own enchantments, so I had the idea to create a God-Eternal Bontu deck with the idea of using her to sacrifice those enchantments.

I'm looking for enchantments (or other permanents) with only black or colourless colour identity, that have a nice pay-off, but can become serious problems if left on the battlefield. Along the line of:

But not along the lines of Lich and that stuff that's good to donate but not to sacrifice.

Thanks a bunch in advance.

Nebechadnezzar on Aetherlich

3 years ago

MFBOOM Looking at Martyr of Sands again, I will admit that it is pretty good even if you only had two white cards in hand. With a lich effect out, that would be six cards for as little as one mana that turn, which is pretty good. With Tymna the Weaver as a commander, I agree that it is a pretty decent pick for this deck.

Lich and Ad Nauseam do actually combo together. Lich specifically says "you do not lose the game for having less than zero life". That means that you are completely unaffected by the life loss from Ad Nauseam. Lich's downside of sacrificing permanents only happens when you are dealt damage, which is different from losing life. This doesn't work with Lich's Mastery or Nefarious Lich, but it is a solid combo nonetheless, especially since this deck has several ways to find these cards.

Overall, I can understand using Aetherflux Reservoir as a wincon, but I think that focusing on getting off the Ad Nauseam or Peer into the Abyss and assembling your win from there is much more reliable. It's overall much more mana efficient, which is usually the way you want to go.

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