If you would draw a card, return a card from your graveyard to your hand instead. If you can't, you lose the game.
If a card would be put into your graveyard, remove that card from the game instead.
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|Classic Sixth Edition (6ED)||Rare|
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Forbidden Crypt Discussion
1 month ago
Something to think about if you do put Morality Shift in your deck is possibly adding Forbidden Crypt. Only thing is that you’ld want to find a Stifle effect in your colors or an artifact or colorless source that does the same to protect your graveyard from Bojuka Bog effects.
5 months ago
Great brewing! Loving this particular brand of jank. I used to run similar combos with Daring Thief to gift terrible artifacts & enchantments like Nefarious Lich Forbidden Crypt Immortal Coil and Demonic Pact . It was tough to assemble but exciting to pull off.
6 months ago
+1 my guy. @Your post
Darkblast is probably playable.
Phyrexian Reclamation is a great way to access your graveyard.
I would remove most of your milling artifacts to make room for some of the above, more draw, more removal, and 4-5 board wipes ( Boompile and Oblivion Stone effects are a must in monoblack). You have strong combos with Syr Konrad and I would focus on drawing/ tutoring into those while you control the board a bit more. With more interaction it'll be less of a glass cannon and more fun to play with and against.
11 months ago
Defile is sweet, and will definitely be getting a slot in here. I'm still on the fence about Force of Despair - it seems strong, but it seems better in 1v1, where I'm not going down two cards to clear one player's creatures right before two more players get a chance to play. I'll test it, but not sure how good it will be.
Crawlspace is a fine card. I don't particularly like playing it because it's not my style (I prefer threats over restrictions), but it's certainly strong.
Ensnaring Bridge isn't as good. First, because it stops our opponents from attacking each other, and second because it relies on us not having cards in hand, which is not what we want. I'd rather have a grip of kill spells than a Bridge and an empty hand.
Umezawa's Charm , while flavorful, is still not powerful enough for the deck. Umezawa's Jitte is strong because of its reusability, and the way it can continue to stack counters when its modes aren't useful right away, allowing it to really build up a large effect. The charm is a one-off, that can't build up to get stronger, and doesn't do any of the things this deck wants very well. Even the Jitte isn't in the deck, because combat damage isn't reliable in the way I play, and the charm is just worse.
Hatred , on the other hand, is very strong. I don't run it because I prefer to pay a lot of life into card draw effects, so paying large chunkcs of life into hatred would be either dangerous or restrictive of the number of cards I can draw. That said, a different build that focused on being more aggressive could use it very well.
Mind Rake is underwhelming. I don't usually care about cards in my opponent's hands. Without a lot of other discard synergy, it's not worth running a one-off discard spell.
Crypt Rats kills itself, and kills our commander, faster than it can kill anything else. Unless I'm 1-shot killing someone, it's not worth it, and if I AM one-shot killing someone, my existing X-spells are better. If I wanted that effect, I'd play Pestilence or Pestilence Demon instead, since those can be more useful in short burst activations.
Forbidden Crypt is bad. I can already reuse most of the cards in my graveyard. Returning them to hand isn't actually gaining card advantage, especially since I have to exile them when I send them back to the yard (the same as if I had just cast them with Toshiro), and because I have to sacrifice the ability to draw cards to do it. If it were a "may" ability, it MIGHT be okay, but even then I'd probably not bother. Plus, Bojuka Bog and Nihil Spellbomb and other mass graveyard hate already targets my deck a lot - with that card in play, it makes me lose the game on the spot.
11 months ago
oh and this may be crazy but your thoughts on Forbidden Crypt
1 year ago
1 year ago
So I see you have Harmless Offering and Donate and a few of the good targets for them, but what about the O.G Lich, Forbidden Crypt, Immortal Coil, or Nefarious Lich? The lich's are probably a bit hard on the manabase, but Coil is easy to kill people with: 1 Bojuka Bog or Tormod's Crypt suddenly turns into Door to Nothingness.
For additional loss spells, Death Wish does literally nothing in commander except lose half your life. Seems decent.
Anyway, cool deck! Didn't have time to really look at everything, but thought I'd throw some suggestions at you.