Kiora Bests the Sea God
Enchantment — Saga
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|Theros Beyond Death (THB)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Kiora Bests the Sea God Discussion
1 week ago
Cards i really like for the deck are Deadeye Navigator, Kiora Bests the Sea God, Rune-Scarred Demon, Soul Herder, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling. A lot of cards i do like but didnt put in top 5 cause i think its like your preference on fav ETB triggers you wanna add.
Cards in the maybeboard i dont think should go in are, Baleful Strix, Angel of Despair, Ashen Rider, Render Silent, Disinformation Campaign and Primevals' Glorious Rebirth. Also Wishclaw Talisman will only be really good if you have repeatable ways to flicker it probably at instant speed, and Thassa's Oracle you will only want if youre going for a combo finish with her.
2 weeks ago
One other wincon you might have already considered is Kiora Bests the Sea God PURELY for that hexproof 8/8 on cast. Might be a worthwhile 1-off.
The fact that the castles aren't legendary still boggles my mind since they're focal locations in terms of lore, but hey-ho -- Ardenvale seems like the better choice between the two, scrying 2 is good, but not chump blocker generation good. Maybe a second would be worth it since you have the fabled passages, which you also may want to consider bumping up to 4.
The other thing about Vantress is that it doesn't draw, which is what the primary win-con (Dreamtrawler) wants you do to do to get bigger. Thirst for Meaning is something I'd recommend, as you have the sagas/omens to burn, it draws THREE (making the sphinx a 6/5) at instant speed and helps you delve deeper for answers. Even just 2 of them would be beneficial, I feel.
Omen of the Sun also creates chump blockers now that I think about it, worth considering.
That one Sabotage might be better as another Veto.
What sort of experience do you have with Shatter? I'm not sure that 4 is the best idea for it, but I'm not up to date with it's power for standard.
2 weeks ago
Very nice! I've been testing out Archon of Sun's Grace + Divine Visitation instead of the Kiora Bests the Sea God's ive been running and ive got to say its pretty good. Alela, Artful Provocateur seems a lil weak just because it has no synergy with the enchantments coming out with Dance of the Manse tho, but its still a nice addition.
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions!
I had previously bought all the creatures you'd mentioned when assembling this deck on MTGO.
The Simic Sky Swallower just feels weirdly vanilla to me. It's obviously not with three separate abilities but given the sweep or unblockable nature provided by the others, Shroud and Flample just don't excite me the same way.
As for the Kederekt Leviathan I considered and dismissed it because, for that mana, I'd much prefer a one sided board sweep. Sure, we'd have a 5/5 when all was said and done but things like Teferi's Protection would mess us up badly on that play. I just don't like the risk it exposes us to.
The Kiora planeswalker is valid. Kiora Bests the Sea God would be magical One on One but somewhat less so in Multiplayer and the Reef Worm just feels like too many hoops to get to my Kraken. I'm very impatient and lazy. I want my big stuff NOW.
I really appreciate the input though! I'll have to test with the Serpent of Yawning Depths soon.
1 month ago
So, if this is a more paper standard, best of three type deck, good card advantage that's cheaper than the cloudkin seer is Omen of the Sea and if you need alternate wincons, try taking out up to two copies of the Unsummon and replace it with some Octoprophet (3/3 for 4 and scrys 2. subjectively better than the cloudkin), Thassa's Oracle , or possibly a seven drop in Kiora Bests the Sea God . I am working on a mono blue devotion deck, and the Altar of the Pantheon is a really good ramp and lifegain source for this. I am also running only one Serpent of Yawning Depths instead of two, and instead 4 Thassa, Deep-Dwelling . Im used to playing mono blue and dimir artifacts or stompy more than anything in Bo3 and Bo1. If you really want that Stinging Lionfish to be a value engine, why not think about some Verity Circle for card draw. Id play 2 or 3 max and then nothing but instants and cantrips like you already have. I would also rather run Wavebreak Hippocamp over cloudkin. Dunno why I dislike the card so much, but I do.
1 month ago
1 month ago
The Guide is looking sweet, and super helpful, hope you update it with the new cards as I have yet to update mine cause I just got back into commander recently and your article just makes it sooo much easier.
As far as new cards go, just to name a few:
=== Theros Beyond Death (TBD) ===
· Thassa, Deep-Dwelling: Blink themed, but I don't like it that much in the 99 cards.
· Thassa's Oracle: could scry lots of cards and even win the game, she's pretty much a staple in a lot of blue decks.
· Kiora Bests the Sea God: token themed, 8/8 hexproof kraken looks good.
· Elspeth Conquers Death: exile effect with a bit of stax in the 2nd counter.
=== Throne of Eldraine (TOE) ===
· Charming Prince: 3 options to choose from, could be okay.
· Corridor Monitor: could be useful.
· Mirrormade: worse copy artifact, but useful.
Again, kudos for the guide, I will be waiting for the next update!