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Rules Q&A
History of Benalia
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters the battlefield and after your draw step, put a lore counter on it and activate and/or enable the ability of tied to the required number of counters. Sacrifice it after you put the XNAME lore counter on it.)
, — Create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance.
— Knights you control get +2+1 until end of turn.
Yogie on lhetrick13
2 years ago
Helloo lhetrick13! I got around and made the changes to Immortal Knights. The main changes are:
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Aryel, Knight of Windgrace got swapped out. It feels a bit sad to lose the deck's Legendary creature but she wasn't pulling her weight.
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I really like Acclaimed Contender and she's in the deck now.
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I took out a few lands and added Knight of the White Orchid instead and it seems to play well so far.
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History of Benalia had to go in favour of Unearth in the mainboard rather than the sideboard. But I have plans to play History of Benalia in other decks. Right now I'm focusing on "trimming" my five main decks, and thereafter I'm building a deck for a friend. But after that, I've got plans for a white and blue, knight and historic deck. Playing knights together with articafts and sagas.
lhetrick13 on Immortal Knights
2 years ago
Yogei - I apologize for the short message earlier. I was at work :)
My pleasure on the feed back. If it is not to self-serving, I would love to have your thoughts on any of my three knight themed decks (For Honor and Glory!!!, Beyond the Grave (Abzan), Beyond the Grave (Mardu)). I would appreciate another knight enthusiast insights!
Sigiled Sword of Valeron is an expensive card for vigilance, especially given you are running Brave the Sands for a fraction of the cost to play/equip Sigiled Sword. Hopefully History of Benalia meets expectations. I love that card but actually just removed it in For Honor and Glory!!! for Guardian of Faith based on some input from Lankhmar. Have not done enough playtesting to comment on that yet though.
I really like the play of Knight of Malice and Knight of Grace for your deck. Provide some evasion from popular removal colors, first-strike, and they pump each other a little. Very nice! I think you would not be disappointed with running either Knight of the White Orchid or Acclaimed Contender. Orchid's ability is so good that I try to get him into anything knight related as I love that ramp. Contender is also nice as it pretty much gives you a knight card back into your hand. I have found with knights I often struggle keeping enough cards in my hand so Acclaimed Contender helps with that a bit. I also think you will like Kinsbaile Cavalier over Kwende, Pride of Femeref. Kwende swings wider as he does not discriminate by creature type but since you are running tribal knights, can not beat Kinsbaile.
I also feel you on the protection from a color. It is so satisfying when it works out but so annoying when it is useless...Makes a good sideboard option though :)
Anyways, I like the deck and appreciate the thought and effort that went into it. Happy brewing and good luck!
Yogie on Immortal Knights
2 years ago
Thank you for the feedback lhetrick13, I always appreciate it!
My primary reason for playing Sigiled Sword of Valeron is actually its vigilance ability. But now that I think on it more, I see your point with History of Benalia. More Knight creature tokens that also have vigilance. I'll make that change to the mainboard.
I'm actually considering replacing Aryel, Knight of Windgrace with Kwende, Pride of Femeref to give double strike to Knight of Grace, Knight of Malice and anything enchanted by Hyena Umbra. But Knight of the White Orchid and Acclaimed Contender are both strong cards and valid replacements. I like Acclaimed Contender as it helps you find Knight Exemplar. Fiendslayer Paladin is a good card as well, but, I'm on the fence regarding cards with protection from colour. They're a bit too inconsistent for my taste.
lhetrick13 on Immortal Knights
2 years ago
As a fellow knight enthusiast, I really the deck! You really hit on the knight synergy and provide some evasion and counters to the biggest threat to this strategy all on the budget.
My only comments kinda resound what you already mentioned. Although I agree with you that Sigiled Sword of Valeron is a cool card, at 3 CMC to cast and 3 CMC to equip, it is so expensive unless you are doing more of a equipped knight build. I would recommend replacing it with History of Benalia for a similar effect at half the cost.
I also feel like Aryel, Knight of Windgrace is kinda a little mediocre. If things are going well and you have knights to tap, she can provide some excellent targeted removal for cheap. If things are not going great, she can also add a knight to the field...I just found that there were very few times when I actually needed her and could use her ability. I would recommend replacing her with something like Knight of the White Orchid, Acclaimed Contender, or maybe even Fiendslayer Paladin. The chances that these knights come in handy is far more likely increasing the consistency of the deck in my opinion.
lhetrick13 on For Honor and Glory!!!
2 years ago
Lankhmar - you mentioned how History of Benalia just feels like it kinda slows down the deck. That got me thinking and I might actually agree with you there. I love the card but it rarely ever gets the big finishing blow. I might try dropping that entirely and run 3xGuardian of Faith. I want to see if that works for me like it does for you. This deck is built to rebuild fast so board sweeps and removals are not horrible but it would be even better if an opponent wasted an entire turn to cast a board sweep only to have it wiff!
Lankhmar on For Honor and Glory!!!
2 years ago
I'll do that soon! We run essentially the same things with only a few exceptions-most of which I have shared. I like the effects of History of Benalia and ran it for awhile but eventually pulled it out. The reason was it competes in that 3rd drop slot with Knight Exemplar then requires a couple more turns to be a win-con. Plus Acclaimed Contender doesn't "fetch" it. In my local meta a lot (most probably) modern decks look to win by turn 5-6. Most are net-decks (nobody home brews anymore sadly) and aggro. Some of the "storm" (combo) decks are even faster. A turn 3 History of Benalia drop just never felt satisfying or felt like a true win-con. Your mileage may vary. My deck is more "front loaded" due to how fast most modern decks are. Instead of History of Benalia I run Noble Hierarch. She's a human so she fits the paradigm, she is a one drop, she fixes a bad mana situation and she's a lightning rod too like Mother of Runes. No matter what happens I always feel good about getting her in my opening hand and putting her into play. She has that nasty little "exalted" keyword and she's gives us a little ramp. I run the Dauntless Bodyguard too but he's a terrible drop in that one slot. Much better to pull him with CoCo turn 4 (or just hold him and hard cast him and play another card as well) and cover your Exemplar.
Mother is a beast add. Trust me! Total lightning rod (and usually does get removed) but any given deck only has so much removal and I'm ok with her getting "burned" and, potentially, saving Exemplar. If she doesn't, even better. Either way she's a benefit.
LOL. This type of aggro deck you kinda WANT to "vomit" your creatures out. That's your win-con. Guardian of Faith and Dauntless Bodyguard would be the exceptions. Holding them in hand until you need them is the best move. It's super satisfying to pull one of them on a CoCo hit when things get desperate. Having him AND Dauntless Bodyguard increases your chances of salvation.
Nephalia Academy has helped a lot. I don't see it every game and I'm thinking about putting another copy or two in my SB because there is so much discard. I've gone back and forth with Leyline of Sanctity in my SB. I can run Nephalia safely partly because Noble Hierarch can fix my mana (assuming she doesn't get removed). I still think you can find room for it though. the mana curve isn't THAT high in this deck.
Aether Vial is amazing with decks that focus on ETB but Knights are more aggro. I'd really rather drop a Noble or Mother than a vial turn one. Call me crazy.
I think part of the reason you are struggling with SB is how you're playing. Playing a single game against a random opponent isn't going to teach you about the effectiveness of your sideboard or help you to tweak it or see what your opponents bring in against you. Full matches are the key. You'll probably sacrifice a bit of your win percentage initially bc your opponents will have some answers in their SB most likely but eventually you'll have an even better deck as you learn from your mistakes and figure out what belongs in the SB against various archetypes and decide what to pull out from your main and what to leave in. I've been playing off and on since Revised and I still struggle sometimes to put together a great SB and determine what goes in and what comes out.
Happy brewing amigo!
TypicalTimmy on Emora, God of Lore
2 years ago
The artwork is borrowed from History of Benalia.
As of the time of this post, there are 68 Sagas. Plenty to explore and build around.
"All colors" is a thing seen on Planewide Celebration.
Completely busted with Urza's Saga as well as the insane value if you manage to get out Kiora Bests the Sea God or Waking the Trolls. Actually a lot of these become busted, lol.
Skysurfer on Boros Modern Soldier
2 years ago
From what I see, your knights theme is too small to properly capitalize off of history of benalia, and Nadar + thalia counteract or dont contribute at all to your game plan. I think taking out nadar and thalia for 2 more Boros Challenger and adding in a few Legion Warboss would benefit you greatly. If your looking to swing wider as well, it would probably help if you took out your monks of the open hand for Legion Loyalist and finding a way to squeeze in 1 more Legion's Landing Flip. Despite my comment earlier on not capitalizing on History of Benalia, its still a solid 2 of in the deck for its ability to assist you in going wide, but i guess just dont get too caught on the knights part of it because your board should be taller with mentor, wide and constantly swinging rather than just wide and waiting for benalia trigger. 1 or 2 Chance for Glory, while risky would be extremely spicy and could easily close you out some games with how aggressive your wide board is; ive run it in general rokhiric before and it is extremely useful for aggressive go wide decks. if you were to add it i would cut a paladin class and/or a fiendslayer paladin, but thats just like, my opinion man.
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