APPLE01DOJ says... #2
Necrogen Mists since u have no Liliana of the Veil
I like Liliana Vess but how many times have u been actually able to cast it?
Since u have no Ensnaring Bridge how about some Smallpox as a defensive measure.
May 2, 2014 10:45 a.m.
MountainMan817 says... #3
I have Geth's Verdict instead of Smallpox but i do see the appeal...
Scepter of Fugue isnt bad but i prefer Nezumi Shortfang
i dont play Liliana Vess much to be honest... Im just saving up for Liliana of the Veil
Its a money issue at this point haha
May 2, 2014 2:16 p.m.
Here are some good ideas.
May 6, 2014 8:42 a.m.
MountainMan817 says... #7
It is generally better that lili's caress but I would need to play test it. I am very excited for it but don't want to get my hopes too high
May 20, 2014 3:38 p.m.
I'm going to assume Liliana of the Veil is out of your price range. However, have you considered Dakmor Salvage as an engine with Raven's Crime .
May 21, 2014 8:41 p.m.
MountainMan817 says... #11
OpenFire i have considered it... I would maybe run 1 but i really like how Bojuka Bog plays
May 21, 2014 8:55 p.m.
also maybe Ghost Quarter ? when you get Dakmor Salvage and Raven's Crime running together the results are awesome.
May 21, 2014 9:51 p.m.
Play it against opposing Tron decks or other ones that rely on lands, like Aggro Loam.
May 21, 2014 10:03 p.m.
MountainMan817 says... #15
Tron isnt as popular as it used to be... Im looking at affinity and boggle decks as major competition... Maybe one in the board but im not too sure about it... I use Extirpate to blow up fetches, but i do see the appeal...
May 21, 2014 10:30 p.m.
AlbinoRaven says... #16
phyrexian obliterator? Lilli of the veil? All good solutions to your conundrum with boggle decks, black sun's wrecks them (state based kill, and sac over destroy effects work best). Darkness is nice against overtly aggro decks, are there any cheap spells that do -1/-1? I'm thinking Zealous Persecution but the mana. Destroy effects like vindicate come to mind as well.
All in all its still a bitchin deck.
May 29, 2014 4:59 p.m.
MountainMan817 says... #17
Phyrexian Obliterator and Liliana of the Veil are too expensive for me... Necrogen Mists takes over for Lili... i think Nyxathid does pretty well, i used to also have Abyssal Nocturnus ... i also used to have Dismember in the board... i tried splashing red for Blightning and Lightning Bolt but it was taking a path towards rakdos or grixis control i didnt want to spend the money on... Vindicate would rock except it isnt modern legal :,( but thanks for all of the ideas AlbinoRaven!!
May 29, 2014 7:46 p.m.
I think that you may just take Liliana's Caress & take in Waste Not yes it's not the best with Damnation in deck but it's just too good in discard decks...
July 13, 2014 8:48 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #21
U really need about 25 lands if u expect to cast either Phyrexian Obliterator or Damnation on time.
July 13, 2014 11:38 a.m.
MountainMan817 says... #22
I will probably go for Waste Not when i can get my hands on a few of them... And 25 lands is a lot... I could try maybe 22 or 23 but not 25 when Phyrexian Obliterator isnt a win con
July 13, 2014 12:38 p.m.
4x Ensnaring Bridge and 2x Dakmor Salvage for Raven's Crime .
July 16, 2014 7:58 p.m.
Hallowed_Titan says... #24
Nice! Love 8 rack.Check it out bro!! Liliana's Love(ly rack)
July 17, 2014 6:25 p.m.
jaredbartlett87 says... #25
I love this deck. From the first day I saw The Rack this is the kind of deck i wanted to build. +1 from me.
Blakkhand says... #1
If you're running red, you should probably be running Lightning Bolt . Maybe some Blackcleave Cliffs to improve the mana.
April 17, 2014 11:54 a.m.