Will an Everlasting Torment stop my Angel's Grace from leaving me at 1 life?

Asked by dragonstryke58 4 years ago

My friends and I were playing a multi-player when one of my friends played an Earthquake with enough damage to kill everyone. He also had an Everlasting Torment on the field which says damage can't be prevented. When that happened, I played Angel's Grace to not lose the game. It was argued that Angel's Grace can't prevent me from going below zero life, so I will still lose.

Am I correct in thinking that the effect of Angel's grace just replaces the effect of me going below zero instead of preventing damage (therefore Everlasting Torment doesn't affect it at all)? And even still, since I technically can't lose the game this turn due to Angel's Grace's effect, don't I win by default since everyone else lost this turn?

BlueScope says... Accepted answer #1

From Gatherer:

Angel's Grace doesn't prevent damage. It only changes the result of damage dealt to you. For example, a creature with lifelink that deals damage to you will still cause its controller to gain life, even if that damage would reduce your life total to less than 1.

So no, Everlasting Torment will have no direct effect here, as it would only apply if Angel's Grace did prevent damage.

June 15, 2015 7:48 a.m.

BlueScope says... #2

And because I glanced over the second question: Yes, if everyone would die, even if you were to go below 1 life, the next time state-based actions were checked after Earthquake resolved, you'd be the only player left (because you can't lose the game that turn), and you'd win the round.

June 15, 2015 7:52 a.m.

dragonstryke58 says... #3

Thank you!

June 15, 2015 7:52 a.m.

steveoowns says... #4

Even if Everlasting Torment did have an effect on Angel's Grace (which it doesn't) you would still be the victor. Your life total is irrelevant for that turn because the first line states "you can't lost the game and your opponents can't win the game this turn." You could be at 0 to -3 billion and it wouldn't matter because you're not allowed to lose regardless of life total, poison counters, or even instant win/lose effects

August 23, 2015 12:42 a.m.

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