Rotation
Economics forum
Posted on April 2, 2014, 8:02 p.m. by Lordofevolution
So once RtR rotates what will go up and what will go down I'm sure shock lands will go up what other things can be expected to increase or decrease in price?
The shocks are going to drop temporarily with the usual Standard-only crowd getting rid of all of its extra cards, but they will probably rise in the long-time.
All of the Mono-Black and Mono-Blue cards from RTR block will go back to being dollar rares.
I'd expect Fleecemane Lion and maybe Brimaz, King of Oreskos to rise in the next standard. Both are great cards that just don't do enough in the current standard.
April 2, 2014 8:20 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #4
Abrupt Decay , Deathrite Shaman , and maybe Supreme Verdict and Sphinx's Revelation will most likely start to creep back up. Decay and DRS will probably reach and maybe even exceed what they are, but Verdict and Revelation probably won't.
MUD and MBD are probably going to fall like a rock unless something else replaces the Jace, Architect of Thought , Nightveil Specter , Desecration Demon , etc.
April 2, 2014 8:23 p.m.
I agree with Ghost on Abrupt Decay . It sees enough play in Modern to warrant a good price, though I think DRS will go down and stay down due to the recent banning in Modern. Even if he sees Legacy play, I don't think it'd be enough to keep him afloat. Legacy is a dying format to some people, and Modern is more popular than ever.
April 2, 2014 8:31 p.m.
Domri Rade will drop and won't rise much if at all.
DRS is a safe bet to fall slightly and then creap back up due to seeing legacy play.
I find what raithe000 said about Fleecemane Lion and Brimaz, King of Oreskos very interesting. I might examine some of that a little closer for early pickups to hold until after rotation. Maybe not on brimaz as he's already pricey but fleecey is only $2 right now.
April 2, 2014 8:47 p.m.
Lordofevolution says... #7
What about the gods and another card that might be interesting is Voice of Resurgence was a very pricey card what will happen to that?
April 2, 2014 8:50 p.m.
I honestly can't say for voice. It was/beast in standard but i don't know if it sees modern play at all.
April 2, 2014 8:59 p.m.
Sorry to double post.
That should have been "was/is beast in standard"
April 2, 2014 9:02 p.m.
Lordofevolution says... #10
I've seen it in a couple of decks in modern and I'm very surprised it's not more common in modern it can really hose a lot of decks
April 2, 2014 9:03 p.m.
Lordofevolution says... #11
Also another question that popped into my mind was pretty much every card that sees play in a named modern archetype has gone up in price like crazy is it because of a GP or something of the sort?
April 2, 2014 9:09 p.m.
actiontech says... #12
I'm going to hold onto my Voice of Resurgence playset, so take that for whatever it's worth.
April 2, 2014 9:29 p.m.
@Lordofevolution ~ it's still modern season (sort of). All major modern cards/staples have been on the rise. At least in my area. Most of the players at my shop play standard and modern because they are held on different days so they can compete in both. Not a major modern player (not at all actually) but ive started following the seasons because it affects prices so drastically.
April 2, 2014 10:13 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #14
I'm pretty sure Voice sees play in fringe Pod decks, maybe in the sideboard.
April 2, 2014 10:23 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #15
I'm still going to resist this common-man-economist idea that shocks are going to drop in value post-rotation because "that's what every card always does." While it's true that most cards do experience a slight decline in value after rotating out of Standard, the shocks may be a different case.
Ever since Innistrad rotation season, players have been getting more economically savvy (in some respects). Lots more players knew that Snapcaster Mage was worth keeping. Part of the trend is the advent and ascension of Modern as one of the main competitive formats. Part of it is the explosion of economic discussion in the Magic community.
At any rate, people are getting smarter with their cards. By now, most people know that shocks are one of the keys to getting into Modern. Many Standard players are likely to hold onto their shocks or trade them at full market value precisely because they're gateway cards.
On top of that, the Modern crowd is still expanding, and demand for shocks is very high. Even if Standard players decide to offload shocks instead of trading them, the demand will be there.
Therefore, I don't support the idea that the shocks will drop in value post-rotation. Of course, we'll have to wait to find out whether they do or not, but it seems to me that they'll be stable.
April 2, 2014 10:26 p.m.
Abrupt Decay
and Deathrite Shaman
are literally guarenteed to go up, pending nothing crazy happening in 6 months
shocks will dip but can eventually rise, they arnt really 4 ofs in decks, just like 2, Steam Vents
sees the most play so thatll be the best hold imo
Supreme Verdict
sees modern and legacy play but only as a 1-2 off, sometimes a 3rd, while sphinxs sees 2 off play in UWR control and 1 of in UW tron. theyll deffinetly come down, but dont expect foils to drop as much imo, especially on verdict. legacy foils will deffinetly hold, Wear / Tear
foil is crazy. and id expect edh foils to stay and go up.
April 2, 2014 10:50 p.m.
Rasta_Viking29 says... #17
I can see Xenagos, The Reveler having a Jace, Architect of Thought like rise. G/R retains most of it's core cards. The next block is suspected to be Barbarian/Mongolian/Hun themed and probably very aggro. Source Seems like a good environment for him.
Fleecemane Lion seems like a solid buy now.
Brimaz, King of Oreskos I'm pulling the trigger on at $20/card. He will be a serious player when Supreme Verdict and Mizzium Mortars rotate. Until rotation he will slowly drop baring some support from JOU.
Just my thoughts.
April 2, 2014 11:07 p.m.
notamardybum says... #18
once again i must agree with Epochalyptik. Mainly because i feel like shocks have dipped low enough. I remember less than a year ago, shocks were no less than $15, and most were around $18-$20. Right now, shock lands are very very low in comparison, possibly due to the rise of mono colored decks?
Most shock lands are below $10, so yeah i dont see them falling any more either
April 3, 2014 12:47 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #19
Voice of Resurgence is getting modern play. Makes B/W tokens worth splashing for IMO. plus Hatebears/Pod/Fringe r using it.
April 3, 2014 1:21 a.m.
Fleecemane Lion , Reaper of the Wilds , and Polis Crusher are all cards that I feel could see more play after rotation. I wouldn't bet on them, but, as of right now I feel like they could fill some empty spaces in the future.
As for Voice of Resurgence I haven't seen a POD recently that hasn't run 2-3. What that means for his price I don't know.
April 3, 2014 2:18 a.m.
I would never put moneu into polis crusher, hes in the intro pack and crazy common rare. Plus while reaper is competing with DD for the 4 drop and DD is rotating, crushe has to compete with polukranos
April 3, 2014 9:08 a.m.
actiontech says... #22
How is the RG monsters deck going to even stay competitive with the losses of Domri Rade , Garruk, Caller of Beasts , and Mizzium Mortars ? That's not even including BTE and Ghor-Clan which appear in varying quantities in different versions. I just feel like that deck completely dies in October.
April 3, 2014 10:09 a.m.
Rasta_Viking29 says... #23
Xenagos, The Reveler , Polukranos, World Eater , Stormbreath Dragon , Courser of Kruphix , Boon Satyr , Xenagos, God of Revels , Arbor Colossus , Mistcutter Hydra , and Sylvan Caryatid will all be there. Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Chandra, Pyromaster are very safe bets to be reprinted in M15.
The deck loses Domri Rade , Ghor-Clan Rampager , Mizzium Mortars and Stomping Ground . Elvish Mystic might not get reprinted but there's always some dork to fill the slot. Burning Tree is not included in Monster decks, aggro and Devotion are where you see him.
Monsters retains most of it's important pieces.
April 3, 2014 10:58 a.m.
Rasta_Viking29 says... #24
I feel good about Pain Seer and Herald of Torment being in most black decks after rotation and rise.
Anger of the Gods seems like a low possibility but high reward.
April 4, 2014 12:04 a.m.
It loses both Pit Fight and Domri Rade which might be painful. It will still be a force in standard though
April 4, 2014 6:57 a.m.
Schuesseled says... #26
RG monsters is a midrange/ramp deck, Domri Rade is great in it, but i'm sure it will manage without. Fanatic of Xenagos might get a bit more love when he rotates.
April 4, 2014 3:21 p.m.
Joebobpickle says... #27
Shocks will stay the same and rise after a month or 2 out.
ChiefBell says... #2
Shocklands will probably go down initially, then rise slowly over time. I can't think of what will go up in ravnica over time....... Supreme Verdict ?
April 2, 2014 8:17 p.m.