Tobias Andrion

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (9)

DreadKhan on Tutorless Commander?

1 year ago

You can always try to make your own meta I guess, and hope other people's interest is piqued in your area/online? In my idea of Casual play there are very few tutors, mostly decks uses them to have a way to close games if their board is consistently insufficient. Not everyone plays casual the same though, so you can still run into people who run very pushed decks (but obviously not cEDH capable) and call that 'casual', hopefully you can explain the situation if it isn't quickly obvious to them and they'll play something else.

In my attempt to build a Commander meta (I built 5 decks to playtest/have variance) I used Legends beaters as Commanders, meaning that you still get to have a figurehead Commander, but you get some of that Gladiator feel as the deck is very 99 driven. Combine unimpressive Commanders with 99 driven decks that don't use tutors (or use a small number of subpar ones, and only if they are absolutely necessary to find a win con for a control deck) and you get a new feeling meta. Technically it doesn't use any special rules or Rule 0 stuff, so I can loan decks for a game (or just play one vs a normal pod, hoping that Tobias Andrion avoids a bit of attention), I guess if your group liked your idea for a meta they might each build a deck to play games that way, who knows?

DreadKhan on Can we play that commander? …

1 year ago

Haha, I thought about Aesi vs Tatyova, but I decided I wasn't pulling another 10 actual cards for lands so I didn't want to change.

Me: Can I please build Prosper?

Mom: But we already have Mighty Pavel at home! Infinite power puts you closer to winning than a bit of impulse draw!

Also:

Me: ...Then can I please build Chulane, Legendary Poet?

Mom: But we already have Tobias the Obviously Literate at home! Everyone prefers poetry that don't use alliteration as it's primary device!

Kidding obviously, but I'm not going to say there aren't games when changing things up is tempting, but most games I lose aren't because of the Commander so why worry about what isn't really the problem?

legendofa on New Social Contract Breach Discussion

2 years ago

Gleeock I haven't gotten in a multiplayer game with randoms for years now, I've never played cEDH, and I don't actually have a regular group at the moment (frustration and sadness), so I'm probably out of touch with actual multiplayer reality.

All the same, though, I have a couple of responses. "[T]he only other valid player threw a tantrum & left the game" is not good play. But I take special exception to the tantrum. If, hypothetically, the other player said "I'm afraid I have no chance at winning, I concede. Good game, and well played," would that still be an issue? I understand that the game flow can be radically changed by who's present and available. However, I see the following: conceding gracefully is respectful and legal. Conceding with a tantrum is disrespectful, but legal. Refusing to vote on Expropriate, then continuing to play, is disrespectful and illegal. And 104.3a very much says a player can dip out of it all: "A player can concede the game at any time. A player who concedes leaves the game immediately. That player loses the game."

But the legality of concession isn't really the issue here. The issue is "when is quitting the game right to do?" Instead of directly answering, I'd like to add some supplemental questions, based on this thread and my own thoughts.

1. Is it fair play to concede in response to being attacked? If Gahiji, Honored One Beatdown attacks Tobias Andrion with a Titanic Ultimatum and enough creatures to defeat Tobias, can Tobias concede immediately to avoid the lifelink damage? Does the answer change whether Gahiji is dominating the match at 300 life + board vs. barely hanging on at 4 life and built up a Fervored board this turn?

2. Is it fair play to concede if a player can reasonably expect to be unable to proceed, if an opponent is relying on their presence? If Sen Triplets Stax has stripped all artifact removal from The Lady of the Mountain's deck through Sadistic Sacrament and has taken control of nearly all of The Lady's permanents, can The Lady concede on the grounds that she reasonably believes she can't win, even though it would cost Triplets some key blockers?

3. Is it fair play to concede a game if it forces another player into a line of action? Marisi, Breaker of the Coil Combat Control goads Jedit Ojanen into attacking. During Jedit's first main phase, before Jedit attacks, Barktooth Warbeard gets a critical removal spell countered and decides this game is unwinnable. Is Barktooth free to gracefully and respectfully concede, forcing Jedit to attack the remaining available player?

I don't claim to have objectively correct answers to these questions, but I think they add some needed nuance to the central question of when someone can concede to another person's detriment.

Obviously, conceding shouldn't be done yelling and tableflipping. But assuming a modicum of decency, I think conceding should be available at any time, within the agreement of the group. It can be difficult to determine whether conceding is done tactically, spitefully, or simply to cut losses, and having a pre-match conversation can settle these issues, so that's a point I strongly agree with. In a more competitive setting, I guess leave it to the judges to explain pre-tournament and adjucate as needed? That's outside of my expertise.

DreadKhan on No war please (in Ukraine)

2 years ago

Avenger en-Dal and Settle the Wreckage don't 'kill', and only work vs attacknig creatures. Crawlspace can limit how many people can swing as you, and Fatespinner is a good way to make it much more costly to swing.

This reminds me a bit of my Tobias Andrion deck, though this is more into the 'figurehead of the nation's freedom' part of his flavor, mine is more of a guerilla warfare expert feel, lots of ways to punish opponents, and very tedious to actually fight against. He looks weak, but if you've got a Noble Purpose on your side, how can you lose?

Caerwyn on The Prismatic Piper

3 years ago

DeinoStinkus

Barktooth Warbeard, Chandler, Jedit Ojanen, Jerrard of the Closed Fist, Joven, Lady Orca, Ramirez DePietro, Sir Shandlar of Eberyn, Sivitri Scarzam, The Lady of the Mountain, Tobias Andrion, and Torsten Von Ursus would like a word!

Hissp on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

6 years ago

What's the rationale for splitting out the non-competitive tiers (3-5) when the focus of this list is exclusively cEDH? It generates a lot of unnecessary arguing.

justavictim82 suggested that Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer is not an utterly useless commander like Tobias Andrion. They suggested that in their experience it was competitive in a more casual, battle-cruiser meta and thus should be moved up to tier 4 or possibly tier 3 where those decks exist. Why shove "good decks don't turn creatures sideways" down someone's throat when that's not what's being discussed at all?

If the purpose of this list is to analyze the viability of commanders in cEDH, then we should have one consolidated non-competitive tier to discourage fruitless debates about commanders like Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer.

On the other hand, if the purpose of this list is to place every commander in a hierarchy, then we should be willing to look at lower tier commanders through a different lens.

PhillipDixon on Grand Arbiter Augustin IV | Advisor Tribal

7 years ago

Love this! Planning to build something almost exactly like this and decided to come here to see if it had been done and here it is!

Though he's bad, if you're concerned with running a distrusted Commander like GAAIV you could try Tobias Andrion.

DaringApprentice on All Possible Commanders

7 years ago

These are all the Azorius commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Ayesha Tanaka, Gosta Dirk, Hunding Gjornersen, Ith, High Arcanist, Jedit Ojanen, Kasimir the Lone Wolf, and Tobias Andrion.

These are all the Dimir commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Circu, Dimir Lobotomist, Nebuchadnezzar, Princess Lucrezia, Ramirez DePietro, Riven Turnbull, Sivitri Scarzam, and Ur-Drago.

These are all the Rakdos commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Axelrod Gunnarson, Barktooth Warbeard, Lady Orca, Pavel Maliki, Rakdos the Defiler, and Rohgahh of Kher Keep.

These are all the Gruul commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Jerrard of the Closed Fist, Livonya Silone, Marhault Elsdragon, Stangg, Sunastian Falconer, and The Lady of the Mountain.

These are all the Selesnya commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Daughter of Autumn, Gabriel Angelfire, Jasmine Boreal, Kei Takahashi, Lady Caleria, Lord Magnus, Sir Shandlar of Eberyn, and Torsten Von Ursus.

These are all the Orzhov commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Selenia, Dark Angel.

These are all the Golgari commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Iname as One, Rhys the Exiled, and Thelon of Havenwood.

These are all the Boros commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Munda, Ambush Leader.

These are all the Grixis commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Mishra, Artificer Prodigy.

These are all the Jund commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Bartel Runeaxe.

These are all the Naya commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Jacques le Vert.

These are all the Five-Colored commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Atogatog.