- 2x Anguished Unmaking
- 3x Countersquall
- 4x Opt
- 4x Path to Exile
- 4x Stoic Rebuttal
- 3x Thirst for Knowledge
I feel that Thopter Assembly is a very very slow card. This deck has an average CMC of 1.8 and a high CMC of 3. As Thopter Assembly is a 6 drop card that offers little synergy while at the same time being inordinately difficult for this deck to cast I can not say that it would be a worthwhile addition to this decks board. This is a modern deck and as such streamlined to succeed against multiple strategies.
October 22, 2017 8:01 p.m.
4 Abrupt Decay in the maindeck seems like a lot; have you considered maybe running only 2 or so and adding in a couple of Serum Visions? Also, Surgical Extraction is better than Extirpate in the sideboard.
October 23, 2017 8:30 a.m.
What about Metallic Rebuke in some conjunction or in place of Stoic Rebuttal ? In modern if games are not going long (which often they do, sometimes they don't) being able to get the counter out earlier with improvise could be nice.
October 23, 2017 1:45 p.m.
Metallic Rebuke is a card that I considered but ultimately went without as the current moderne environment is able to deal with Mana Leak-like countermagic with too much ease. We have no desire to stop most of the enemies casts, just those that disrupt us or threaten infine shenanigans.
I am aware that Surgical Extraction is generally better than Extirpate however my choice exists because of how meaningful extirpate can be versus the strategy that we would use it against. Namely living end and storm. It is poor form to mearly considered a single card as always better than another as with magic what's more important is what work best given the specific deck. For example mine leaves up tons of mana every turn as my win-condition is reactive not proactive so the cost for Extirpate is often 1 thopter or servo which is a well spent trade.
Finally the the number of abrupt decays in the main board is perfectly reasonable as virtually no deck that is modern competitive would not suffer sufficient loss to it.
October 23, 2017 2:41 p.m.
Sorry, I just wanted to point out that some cards are ALWAYS better than others. For example, Hieroglyphic Illumination is strictly better than Inspiration because it does exactly the same thing except it has the cycling ability. While there are a number of situations where it is not correct to say that one card is strictly better, sometimes it is true.
October 23, 2017 9:24 p.m.
I would recommend Serum Visions over Opt in a combo deck as Serum Visions digs 3 cards and Opt digs either 1 or 2 cards. Even Sleight of Hand would be better as you know both cards before you pick. I know Opt is instant speed, but your deck is mostly tap out anyway- you're not playing enough instant speed stuff you need to hold up to lose out on the power difference between Visions and Opt.
Also, to protect your combo, I like some amount of Spellskite and/or Spell Pierce.
Finally, if you can shell out for it, Ensnaring Bridge doesn't hurt your deck basically at all and just wins against certain decks.
October 23, 2017 9:31 p.m.
I have answered why I feel that the choices made are best in the above post so please feel free to read it.
While serum visions and my choice of counter magic has been covered I have not denoted why I forewent Ensnaring Bridge. Simply put rawly will o have few enough cards in had to make its inclusion meaningful. Frankly bridge is a liability to a deck that regularly pumps out 2/2's and at times 3/3's. I cannot fathom as to why I would willingly obstruct the core of my deck in such a way. For this reason alone I run so many Abrupt Decay as the bridge can hinder the action potential of this deck.
October 24, 2017 12:03 a.m.
Its a decent version of the deck, but i personally don't like it because it is a very complicated combo
October 24, 2017 8:09 p.m.
I assume I'm correct in thinking Indomitable Creativity would be too inconsistent to bother running here, but I feel like you've got too many moving parts here. How do you deal with artifact hate or board bounce effects?
October 24, 2017 8:18 p.m.
@TheRedGoat There are few board bounces in modern competitive and for use our answer is to simply recast them on our next turn should it resolve. We have multiple counterspells and kill spells that target not just creatures. Our utility spells coupled with how this deck plays reactivity with its mana base (choosing to spawn tokens at end-steps), and how low the avg. CMC is allows us to consistently have the mana open to respond to such threats.
@GeoDUBBS24 I don't see how this combo is complicated. This combo is, at it's core, a 2 card combo for token production with a secondary synergy that utilizes a third card for infinite turns. The vast majority of modern competitive infinite-combos seem to run between 1-2 cards for an engine or starting point and 1 card as a finisher or mana outlet. I feel that my combo is no more complicated than any other good or useful combo that is run.
October 25, 2017 12:28 a.m.
What about mindslaver you already have the academy ruins that's an infinite turn combo
October 25, 2017 4 p.m.
Mindslaver is a rather high mana cost for this deck and likely better placed in a tron deck.
October 25, 2017 10:46 p.m.
with so much of your deck being 2 mana cost combo peices i would run 4 shred memory or muddle the mixture, the transmute will ensure either combo happens. :D
November 7, 2017 7:05 p.m.
I dropped Muddle the Mixture as we where not having a problem reaching combo pieces, as this deck as a fair bit of draw power, and redundancy. Ultimately Muddle was replaced for Countersquall which lets us better protect our pieces and deal with enemy threats.
November 8, 2017 10:21 a.m.
wouldn't a full 4 Time Sieve be good for this deck to increase the drop rate for one
November 8, 2017 5:02 p.m.
This deck does not focus on the Infinite turn combo as it is a win more condition against aggro and infinite combos, but a potential win vs hyper control or passive decks.
November 8, 2017 9:32 p.m.
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This deck is Modern legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Servo, 1/1 Thopter|
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