still working on it but this is somewhat how id like it to be

Great deck, 1+

My only suggestion would be to try and get it down to 60 cards because with 23 land it might be difficult in early game. Some people even have a hard time getting lands in a 60 card deck with 24 lands. I know it's just a few cards but, it really makes a difference.

Got any suggestion on what to cut. I could just bump the mana to 25 since it a casual deck because I just got no clue what to get rid of.

i like Nemesis of Mortals more than ghoul tree

the double green is the issue though=s

with your mana base it shouldnt be too hard to get two greens out

ill test it out, any other suggestions

I myself have a casual bug graveyard deck as well, though mine is more self-mill based. If you feel like checking it out for ideas, here it is: Splintersmash Graveyard-Humping. In addition, I would switch out Nekrataal for Big Game Hunter, as it costs less, hits black and artifact creatures, prevents regeneration and also has madness.

Big Game Hunter def would be a better replacement. His madness is a nice bonus if I side in the charms too

buddy, did you know you can use Havengul Lich's abilty to pay again and again and again the evoke cost (exactly, not the normal cost, the evoke cost!) of creatures in your graveyard? ; )

Oh that's crazy, so he can reanimate anyone for just 1 mana ontop of the original cost?

Reduce*

woops lol

The main problem I see here is that a fast deck can annihilate you while you're setting up. I know, because I have a similar deck, and that is what happens to me. Consider running the Putrefy and Sultai Charm main board, and grabbing some Murderous Cuts also. You have a plethora of draw spells at your disposal; Treasure Cruise. Dig Through Time, Deep Analysis and Fact or Fiction, the last of two of which become strait value.

I don't like strait value cards like Vampire Nighthawk, Desecration Demon, or Reaper of the Wilds, this deck has a ton of things it wants to be doing. I run more of a reanimator subtheme, with Vigor Mortis, Whip of Erebos, more Sidisi, and Hornet Queen and Sphinx of Uthuun as my finishers of choice.

Also, I think you are running entirely too many lands. This, being a three color value/ combo deck, should probably run about 23- 24, and that is probably the limit for any deck that doesn't base a dumb strategy around them. You have the fixing situation under control, with on color duals. In fact, consider picking up two more Drowned Catacombs, and cutting the islands altogether.

You're right about struggling vs fast decks. I will try running more removal cards to help slow them down in the early game but the delve cards pretty much go against some of the cards here. Why do you see those creatures as bad thought, they are strong and have good synergy with the other cards

The delve cards are your call, but do try fact or fiction. It's strait value with Sidisi. The other option you have vs fast decks are board wipes, but Im not sure whats out there as far as cheap, acquirable. Damnation is all I can think of but its a sideboard card at best in this deck, and they run thirty bucks a pop.

I don't know, I just see the value cards as a bit of filler. I used cards like Satyr Wayfinder and Deranged Assistant to hold the ground early until I could power out my value re animator targets with Vigor Mortis and Whip of Erebos. It probably comes down to preference.

Viridian Emissary, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Drown in Sorrow are cards for like weenie type agro decks. The Drown in Sorrow is already in the sideboard but when it comes to beefier creatures, that's where im pretty screwed. For the 2 mana fetchers, I just never knew what to drop for them but ill try dropping what you suggested and see how that works out. Im going to need more consistant win cons if I do though. Should I bump up the Night Howlers and Ghoultree?

I run Splinterfright over Nighthowler, but howler goes better with your value creatures, especially nighthawk. I would test three and four howlers to see which is better. He's a bit swingy, but with the cards I suggested, you should be getting guys more consistently in the yard. I like Ghoultree in the deck as well, I would keep him at two. nothing feels worse than drawing him in your opener.

Another thing to consider: one or two more Sidisi. Shes a solid man, and a goddamned engine. She makes zombies, which can pile up into a win con, and she gets cards into your yard. Your reapers work well to close out games also (especially with the scry triggers). If you're hard pressed for win cons, try out Havengul Lich. I'm testing him, and am not sure how I feel yet, but he might work better with your deck.

You're running Bone Shredder and Shriek maw, why would big guys have you down? And thanks! I hadn't thought to test with Drown in Sorrow yet!

The deck that has me beat is boros, I take some damage from the early aggression and I just get burned out as I stable out. I have tried Havengul Lich but he is always a auto kill and Oversold Cemetery is harder to remove

what do you think of this version Reduce Reuse Recycle w/ blue copy

Avatar of Woe?

what do you recommend replacing with woe

sidisi.

sidisi is pretty core in this deck though, she has a mill trigger and spits out zombies with all the other cards