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Format | Legality |
1v1 Commander | Legal |
Archenemy | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Rules Q&A
Patron of the Kitsune
Legendary Creature — Spirit
Fox offering (You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a Fox and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Fox. Mana cost includes color.)
Whenever a creature attacks, you may gain 1 life.
SufferFromEDHD on Life Gain Voltron (Trelasarra)
2 years ago
Accomplished Alchemist, Blossoming Bogbeast, Lifegift, Archangel of Thune, Patron of the Kitsune, Sword of War and Peace, Well of Lost Dreams
MagicMarc on Rare commander build?
2 years ago
According to EDHrec, my most obscure commander decks are the following:
Isareth the Awakener: 39 decks. Its a rat colony-based commander deck so might not count but there it is.
Glissa Sunseeker: 47 decks. Its a fun and annoying deck that makes stuff artifacts and then blows them up.
Patron of the Kitsune:180 decks. Annoying deck that gains a stupid life total with lame win conditions. I havent played it in a long time.
Props to the Blind Seer decks! I love that card.
Spell_Slam on Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
2 years ago
Earnest Fellowship seems like a great choice here.Glory could also be an excellent addition. Sejiri Shelter Flip is an easy include in your land package. Cloudchaser Kestrel seems like a really good inclusion as a backup to your commander and as removal and a random flyer.
Righteous Cause could be Patron of the Kitsune, I think. It's just a better card and you actually run a couple foxes to play it at instant speed occasionally. It will gain life even if players aren't attacking you, which is great.
In terms of some cuts, I don't think Spelltithe Enforcer will do much without more oppressive stax pieces already in place, which kind of makes it win-more, in my opinion.
I think Apostle's Blessing is the weakest of your protection spells and could probably go. Mana Tithe, while hilarious for its "gotcha" moments, will often stay stuck in your hand and not really give you much of a choice of what to counter. Cosmos Elixir definitely seems like the worst of your card draw options and could probably go.
I don't think Angel's Feather will work with your Commander's ability, as far as I understand. It's an okay card, but it seems mostly meta dependent.
PirateCptAstera on Spirits
2 years ago
Infernal Kirin Karlov of the Ghost Council Lantern Kami Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens Patron of the Kitsune Spirit of the Hearth Windborn Muse Yargle, Glutton of Urborg Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit Banshee of the Dread Choir Basilica Bell-Haunt Bygone Bishop Clarion Spirit Crypt Ghast Divinity of Pride Drogskol Cavalry Emissary of Despair Emissary of Hope
Gidgetimer on Fox Offering+Commander tax?
3 years ago
Since Patron of the Kitsune has a CMC greater than or equal to every other fox and they are all white this only applies to Vulpine Goliath, but it is nice to know how reductions in general interact with commander tax. Cost reductions can reduce the commander tax. Vulpine Goliath will reduce the cost of Patron of the Kitsune by ( for the generic mana portion, and another from because offering, unlike most reductions, applies the colored to generic). This means that the first time you cast Patron of the Kitsune from the command zone sacrificing Vulpine Goliath would reduce the cost to . The second time it would reduce it to . The third time it would reduce it to . And so on.
Tylord2894 on Fox Offering+Commander tax?
3 years ago
Commander tax is just like any other taxing effect. It does not affect the CMC of a spell nor does it bar you from casting a spell "without paying its mana cost".
When determining what you have to pay for a spell, there are four steps. First, determine the "base cost" of the spell by taking the printed cost or alternative cost, if applicable, and substituting any with the chosen value. Next, take the base cost of the spell and add any taxes, such as the Command tax but also effects like Sphere of Resistance. Then, subtract any discounts, such as Helm of Awakening and the Fox Offering effect of Patron of the Kitsune. Lastly, apply the effect of Trinisphere if it's out.
In short, the Command Tax is just like any other taxing effect. It does not change the CMC of a spell/permanent. One of the only times that a spell's CMC differs from what's printed on its card is when there is an in the mana cost.
Hope this helps!!
VampDemigod on Fox Offering+Commander tax?
3 years ago
Does commander tax in EDH count as part of the commander’s mana cost, or is it a separate cost? I know you can’t cast the commander without paying it, but you can use the commander’s abilities to cast it without paying tax.
This leads to my two questions: 1: does commander tax affect Patron of the Kitsune’s ability? For example, if I’ve cast Patron from the command zone twice already, and I activate Fox Offering, sacrificing Flourishing Fox, do I have to pay 4W or 8W?
Secondly, if I have a card on the battlefield that cares about the cmc of cards I cast, is commander tax part of that cmc? Let’s say Kiyomaro, First to Stand is my commander. If I have cast Kiyo once before from the Command Zone, is Kiyo’s CMC 7 or 5 while on the stack?
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