Going Infinite Win Cons
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on May 27, 2012, 1:47 a.m. by Angamir
deck:kraj-deck needs a little help.
I'm getting to the point where I'm really happy with putting the infinite combos together. However, going infinite isn't a win con by itself. I'm really looking for blue and/or green cards that can win as soon as I get infinite green mana ( e.g. Kamahl, Fist of Krosa ).
I should note that my card philosophy is that every card in the deck should be good by itself, but amazing in the right combination. Triskelion is getting pulled for that reason. It will end games when I go infinite, but does me very little good by itself. I'd prefer cards that can win that turn, but would be okay with cards that will win next turn, such as Wurmcalling .
Thanks for all the help!!
-Ang
JamesKrell says... #3
There's some stuff you can do with Tamiyo, the Moon Sage .
Specifically, combine it with Mind Over Matter . Combine that with Scepter of Empires or Psychosis Crawler .
If you're looking for stuff to work with infinite mana, card:Blue Sun's Zenith will win as long as they don't kill you in their upkeep. Also, it's a really good card in EDH. Other than that, I don't know. If you're looking to do infinite combos that win immediately, I would look into different colors, specifically red or black. You can do much more with infinite mana if you were able to use a card:Red Sun's Zenith or Consume Spirit .
May 27, 2012 2:41 a.m.
Experiment Kraj keeps me operating in Blue and Green since I'm playing EDH. card:Blue Sun's Zenith would be a really great card as a means of getting out one of my other win con cards, and is a great card outside of when I'm infinite.
I'm trying to stick with cards that will operate with the combos that are already in the deck. In order of ease:
- Infinite Green Mana
- Infinite +1/+1 Counters
- Infinite Mana
I'm looking for cards that will finish off opponents when I have at least one of these conditions (preferably the green mana).
An alternative is infinite draw since that will allow me search out one of my other win con cards.
Thanks for the suggestions!
May 27, 2012 11:08 a.m.
JamesKrell says... #5
Well, what I'm saying is, if you're trying to build a deck around the idea of going infinite, you might want to look at different commanders.
May 27, 2012 11:29 a.m.
JamesKrell, she also inifinites even easier with Turnabout , so much so, that I had to take Turnabout out of all of the decks with Tamiyo, because infinite isn't really my style.
Stroke of Genius is easier to cast with infinite green mana than card:Blue Sun's Zenith.
Hurricane and Squallmonger work is you have more life. Gelatinous Genesis is fun. GG and SM are surprise win-cons in my Mean Grene Okerlund Azusa deck.
Helix Pinnacle is the best suggestion so far.
May 28, 2012 9:04 a.m.
I am a fan of Orochi Hatchery myself, Infinite snakes for the win! It is a decent token producer with non-infinite mana.
May 29, 2012 2:02 a.m.
Nethermind says... #9
My Favourite is having Reaper King , Conspiracy , Intruder Alarm and anything that taps for creatures (i use Godsire ) Utter destruction.
This kind of combo can also be achieved with championing changelings.
I can also Cauldron of Souls while Melira, Sylvok Outcast , Reaper King and Mana Echoes , Butcher of Malakir , Grave Pact , Warstorm Surge or Door of Destinies is out, and just pop your own creatures which persist with no counters so they get huge, i get loads of mana, and opponents sac creatures and take damage.
May 30, 2012 6:26 a.m.
Nethermind says... #10
And i didn't realize this was a Kraj deck, my bad, should probably read the description :S
Karnage says... #2
Increasing Confusion Although it probably wouldn't be that great by itself.
May 27, 2012 1:55 a.m.