I recommend Deflecting Swat

noctis366, you're in my head. I'm contemplating swapping that in for Counterspell. But Counterspell is something of a pet card of mine. But due to the competitive nature of this deck, I must put it in. What do you think? That a good choice? Or should I swap out Countersquall?

See, with deflecting swat, you can redirect removal spells to your opponents creatures, making them remove their own creatures. I would put it in for countersquall

Yarok, noctis366 - its done. I appreciate your input, both of you. Now I have to go through the trouble of getting a Deflecting Swat along with a Fierce Guardianship. Yeesh.

Yeah, staying at home is tough

Got a Fierce Guardianship, Deadly Rollick and need to also get a Deflecting Swat. Some good support cards from the new commander sets

Wow, nice

Doombeard1984, Yarok, As much as I absolutely enjoy Deadly Rollick limiting my targeting options to just creatures only wouldn't be as beneficial. Since this deck is considering a cEDH meta my concern would be primarily non-creature permanents. I turned in a bunch of foils I've picked up from opening up half a box of Mystery Booster packs and sent them in to Card Kingdom. I can at the very least pay for a Fierce Guardianship outright in store credit, but i'll have to pay out of pocket for each Deflecting Swat (I need 2). But after that I should be good. My other want for this deck is a DCI Judge Promo Counterspell, (I don't think tappedout actually has the DCI promo version scanned up) but it's always circulating around $30 US. I'm definitely going to get one as Counterspell is a pet card of mine that I just adore - it shaped my experience in Magic when I first started playing around 2001-2002. I was playing mostly T2 then, but I rocked a casual U/B Wizards deck which contained whole host of counter-magics. Ah, memories.

Memoryyyyyyyy

Mortlocke, Yarok - Well, i have actually just bought the commander deck for the Deflecting Swat... easiest way to get it lol. I need to think about what my hive now needs to have taken out. I am a little confused. Cuts are sometimes very deep and painful to make hahaha. Any advice would be much appreciated. As to what you said Mortlocke, I have a very similar kind of...kinship with Forgotten Ancient. not a competitive card in anyway shape or form. But damn, my days a Timmy when i was a wee boy. Them were the days.

Stay safe Hivelings

Doombeard1984, here's my rationale for cutting cards, hopefully it'll assist you in your choices:

1. For the card you wish to include, consider all cards in the deck that have similar functionality.
2. Compare and contrast - what does the card up for the cut do that the new card doesn't? Is that additional functionality worth keeping it?
   Example: Countersquall vs. Deflecting Swat
   • Squall targets non-creature spells, Swat targets all spells OR Abilities that have an intended target.
   • Countersquall damages an opponent for 2 life, but also has a more restrictive cost in being U/B
   • Deflecting Swat is free when the commander is on board (not as useful early game). But, has a very splashable cost at 2R - which isn't too restrictive of a cost - when compared to Countersquall.
3. Knowing your deck and your meta, decide on what to keep based on what you know you will see more often than not.

I feel kinship with a lot of cards. Some of them are... Xantcha, Sleeper Agent, Yarok, the Desecrated, Thief of Sanity, Gargos, Vicious Watcher, Helm of the Host.

I’m WAY to attached to my cards ;(

I feel the most kinship towards Liliana Vess(Which I had a copy of before someone scammed me ;( I was a noob back then, don’t judge me). She was my first card, and the best card I had back then. She inspired my first mono black deck, and got me into magic.

Yarok, I hear ya when it comes to that special kinship. My suggestion is to try and narrow it down to a select few when it comes to deck. Try the Marie Kondo method - hold the card in your hands and ask yourself "Does this spell spark joy?" if not? Then you know you can cut it.

Wow, thanks

How do you feel about Sylvan Scrying VS Nature's Lore as low cost ramp. I like how Sylvan Scrying could get me a Cavern of Souls or in your case a cradle. But I feel like Nature's Lore putting a forest into play is simply just more efficient ramp.

Thanks!

First of all, I think both are amazing ramp cards, and good to have. Second, I have a deck that I am trying to make popular ( like the queen’s egg, but probably not as successful), and I need some ppl to go check it out. Also, would anyone be willing to feature it? The deck is

Omnath, Locus of Raves *Tribal Build

Commander / EDH* Yarok

SCORE: 2 | 129 VIEWS

PS, 128 of those views are me making the deck and grinding up the description (Thank you mortlock! Description looking good. You are in the big thanks to section)

bigrigroy,

"How do you feel about Sylvan Scrying VS Nature's Lore as low cost ramp."

Lore is the better option because it doesn't take the 1 Land being played during your main phase, while Scrying does. The ability to tutor for literally any land is powerful, and can definitely be helpful in a pinch - but I wouldn't consider Sylvan Scrying ramp, more so mana fixing/utility.

@Mortlocke Spent about a days worth of time on the descriptions. Thanks for your help, it is looking good imo

Unnatural Selection seems 9000x better than the changeling.

Change my mind

bigrigroy, I think you should watch what you say about Amoeboid Changeling, he gets SUPER triggered real easy when you bring up Unnatural Selection...oh wait. Uh oh...I think he heard you!

I couldn't help myself. So, let me bring up the simple pros and cons for each card.

Unnatural Selection

• Pro: Is an Enchantment, and is harder to remove
• Pro: Can fire off multiple times each turn for the low cost of per target
• Con: Does literally nothing when Sliver Overlord is not on the battlefield. Additionally - can be considered a dead card when in an opening hand
• Con: Cannot be tutored by Sliver Overlord. Would have to use a Demonic Tutor or Enlightened Tutor to fetch, instead of a game ending piece such as Mana Echoes, Sliver Queen, or any other mana rock that can advance your boardstate

Amoeboid Changeling

• Pro: Can be tutored by Sliver Overlord, reserving other tutors in hand for more important pieces to fetch
• Pro: Gains all benefits from other Slivers in play - possessing all the keywords and abilities, like a real sliver
• Pro: In the rare edge cases where creature type matters for an ability to fire, Changeling can remove all creature types from a single target (e.g. - Shutting off Najeela, the Blade-Blossom's ability so that she can't fire off and create an infinite amount of Warrior tokens - yes, i've done this.)
• Con: Has a puny weak 1/1 body, and can easily be removed.
• Con: Has no real useful ability that makes it useful by itself.

To sum up my argument Selection is a gimmick that can't contribute outside of enabling Overlord to steal creatures. By itself, it just sits on the board taking up space not contributing. Worse yet, in hand it is a dead card that you don't want to cast unless you have Overlord on the field. Changeling is better because it's more than just a gimmick. Barely more, but it can contribute to your board in different ways by using the abilities of the other Slivers in play. Additionally, Overlord (OR Homing Sliver) can easily tutor it up - saving those valuable in hand tutors for other way more important spells.

Parry, reposte. - what say you now after reading that?

Incredibly well structured argument. I love custom Amoeboid btw. I guess I just personally like the idea of "win more" or rather "steal more" lol.

I do think I'll still be trying to playtest unnatural selection for myself once all this quarantine shenanigans is over and I can go to my LGS but I'll keep your words of advice in mind!

bigrigroy, I think you hit the nail on the head - Selection is representative of a "win more" deck building concept while Changeling is more about versatility/deck synergy.