Nice Simic deck! The only additions I can think of would be, maybe, Elusive Krasis as an unblockable evolve creature.
August 18, 2015 7:51 p.m.
Looks good. After seeing this I tried to update my Simic deck based on this but without copying it outright.
August 19, 2015 1:47 p.m.
August 19, 2015 6:09 p.m.
Stickman618 I was thinking about adding Servant of the Scale, but i don't know if there's any cards that it would be good enough to replace. It just doesn't do enough in my opinion. Thanks for the suggestion anyway!
August 19, 2015 6:09 p.m.
Ardynt, don't sweat it! Elusive Krasis was a staple of my old Simic deck. I'll be buying some cards and building this deck soon! Thanks for the helpful ideas!
August 19, 2015 6:28 p.m.
Simic Guildmage Make undying trigger a bunch and build up your permanents
August 23, 2015 10:44 p.m.
Sgreenden I see what your saying, Simic Guildmage is really good. However, my bigest issue is how it's not very aggressive, and can easily die to Lightning Bolt. Feel free to put it in your sideboard though, for more grindy matchups!
August 24, 2015 5:53 p.m.
Hi Ardynt, I'm fairly new to MTG and I've been looking around at some decks, and I'm really interested in getting this one :) I just wanted to know if Yavimaya Coast is important to have or if I can just substitute it for something a little cheaper. Thanks! Also +1
August 25, 2015 3:12 a.m.
@Blade18410, if you're looking for something less expensive, try Thornwood Falls from the Khans of Tarkir set. That should do the trick.
August 25, 2015 7:42 a.m.
Crazy deck, beautiful idea :D I playtested a bit, and I think that maybe 20 lands are enough. What do you think?
August 25, 2015 9:46 a.m.
Hey Blade18410, welcome to MTG!
There are cheaper options that you could go with, such as Thornwood Falls (as FatCat23476 stated) and Temple of Mystery, but your best bet would definitely be Yavimaya Coast. With how aggressive this deck is, you really need your lands to enter the battlefield untapped so you can keep up with your tempo. Also, Yavimaya Coast provides much needed two-colored mana production. If you want to wait a couple days, Yavimaya Coast will probably drop down to a dollar or so, but right now on TGCplayer you can get a playset for only $3.20!
August 25, 2015 12:35 p.m.
Aleboth93 I often get more than enough lands as well. I can try it and see how it works...
August 25, 2015 12:56 p.m.
I wouldn't add simic but I would replace hardened scales with Bioshift. Being able to pongify the same creature or having the undying ability back is a nice advantage. I would also probably add a Vorapede or two for mid range games to stop creature stalls or as just a big nasty to have out. Hardened scales is good but +1 counter isn't reallyWorth not being able to save your creature and keep board presence. Love the synergy with hunger of the howlpack and pongify though. I'll give you a +1, undying decks are fun.
August 25, 2015 6:50 p.m.
Oh and Oran-Rief, the Vastwood could be good in here for when you have that extra mana and can spare some. All cards I've suggested are budget also, I kept that in mind for you.
August 25, 2015 6:54 p.m.
Great job! I love this deck! I played the Experiment One \ Cloudfin Raptor deck in Standard and its great to see them back. I built a clone of this last night and I'm going to take it to FNM and see if I can get a play or two in before it starts. I have been toying making a Simic deck for my Modern stuff since I have all the lands (and 99% of the cards) already.
I tried to begin to put together a sideboard In the Lab full of situational stuff, but this deck is so fast that cards that aren't part of the engine just seem to get in the way. Cards have to be cheap to be in the sideboard and have a chance at use without killing your tempo, I would think. The average CMC is 1.53! That is nuts (to me) since even my goblin deck is a CMC of 1.88! If I do sideout, it will probably be like two cards at a time. I think Aquastrand Spider against a flyer deck is particularly nasty, and Crystal Shard is also an annoying artifact that is cheap to use.
August 26, 2015 3:21 p.m.
ArabsCamel Thanks for your suggestions! As for Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, I again can't stress how important it is for my lands to enter the battlefield tapped. Every one of my explosive plays requires Turn 1 and Turn 2 to have fully untapped mana. However, I'm thinking that maybe Oran-Rief, the Vastwood could be the 21st land, since it is often useful Turn 3 or 4 in grindier matchups when you're topdecking Pongify. As for Bioshift. I can see how it would be useful, but I don't know if it's better then Hardened Scales. I'll have to think about that. Vorapede I think might be a bit too slow.
August 26, 2015 4:14 p.m.
Imho, Hardened Scales is the most important card of your deck. You can have a 2/3 Cloudfin Raptor attacking on turn 2, and in the best scenario a 4/5 on turn 3. So, at least 6 damage in the opponent's face!
August 26, 2015 4:55 p.m.
geena that's awesome! I'm so glad that people are taking my deck idea to the next level, revising and constructing it. I think that Alchemist's Refuge is a good 21st land, or Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, as both have their pros and cons. As for Crystal Shard and Aquastrand Spider, I feel those might be a little to slow, but if they work for you then by all means play them. If you could give me an update as to how the deck does at FNM, is would be greatly appreciated! I also really like your sideboard. AEtherize for the win!
August 26, 2015 8:51 p.m.
I think you should check out the bug undying deck article. From the sounds of it, you might be missing some vital triggers and stack manipulation if you're going to be playing hardened scales.
August 26, 2015 9:22 p.m.
I really like the Aquastrand Spider using it as an "enchantment" that I can push a green through to give all my creatures reach even if it is a touch slow, but I agree Crystal Shard is not the best fit. what do you think about Pithing Needle? It's a good solution for a lot of stuff and also can target annoying planeswalkers. Plus it only costs 1 :)
August 27, 2015 1:03 p.m.
August 27, 2015 2:09 p.m.
August 27, 2015 3:07 p.m.
AwesomeName I definitely am considering adding Avatar of the Resolute, as it has great synergy with Hardened Scales, and virtually every one of my creatures. As for Simic Charm, I might consider adding it, but I don't know if it would be good enough to replace Inspiring Call
August 27, 2015 3:40 p.m.
Wow - I didn't even know Avatar of the Resolute existed.
I think it may be worth moving two of the Hunger of the Howlpack to the sideboard and adding two to the main deck. It solves the mid-game problem of flying creatures if you don't get the kill early, has trample to get pask pesky chump blockers and it will give you another level of evolve for everything that is on the battlefield. A playset of these is only $4.00. Of course, you may have to change the name of the deck to "Turning Dogs into Apes for $27" :)
August 27, 2015 5:07 p.m.
August 27, 2015 7:21 p.m.
Clever combo of Undying with Abzan's bonuses to +1/+1 countered creatures!
August 28, 2015 3:32 p.m.
I would maybe consider including Zameck Guildmage in the list, possibly over Elusive Krasis. The card draw is ridiculous, and being able to take counters from your undyers so they keep on coming back is amazing. I would also consider running Rancor, over Hardened Scales as it causes you to get 2 for 1'd less, gives your guys a form of evasion, and does better on its own in many cases.
August 29, 2015 7:09 p.m.
September 1, 2015 8:45 p.m.
rainbowofdeath good idea, I'll think about it. Tapped lands aren't really good for this deck though.
September 1, 2015 8:47 p.m.
Now that I look at your deck a second time, I'd have to agree with the others who have suggested this and say that Bioshift is a very viable addition to the deck. It helps your Undyers survive, and also accelerates the pump on pressure cards like Elusive Krasis.
September 2, 2015 11:04 a.m.
AEthersnipe could be evoked evolve some guys and have a nice effect.
September 3, 2015 2:01 p.m.
Have you thought about maybe adding Slime Molding? It gives you some added versatility with the evolve creatures. You can play it for cheap at the beginning to evolve them when they are small, or use it later when you have more land and your other creatures are too small to trigger evolve. I could understand concerns of it being too slow though. Maybe more of a sideboard card. Anyway, I love the deck idea. The combo of Hardened Scales, Undying, and Evolve is brilliant. Well done!
September 9, 2015 4:51 p.m.
I have made the proxies just to try it out and...I simply love it and wnat to build it.I changed 1 forest for one Bioshift and worked quite well, with one or two Hardened Scales on the field it lets move the counter from an undying creature to other with some evasion adding a enormus amount of counters to it, which is really helpful in long games.
October 24, 2015 1:52 p.m.
I have been playing with this deck a bit and it is SUPER fun, absolutely love it. Something I might suggest is throwing in a 1 of Evolutionary Leap. It has a ton of synergy with your deck, giving you TONS of extra card draw and allowing you to kill you own undying creatures when you need to (1) evolve your other creatures or (2) get some more creatures with +1 counters for inspiring call. It also gets around Path to Exile preventing your undyers from being exiled. I find it almost never to be a dead draw and it has pulled be ahead in a ton of control/grindy matchups as this sort of deck tends to run out of cards rather quickly.
October 30, 2015 3:58 p.m.
November 2, 2015 6:23 p.m.
Would this deck by any chance work against a mono-red dragons deck?
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