Been thinking about building a mono black deck that doesn't cost hundreds of dollars lately. Thanks for the inspiration! +1
July 25, 2016 3:23 a.m.
This deck is actually really competitive, probably one of the best decks I've seen on a budget +1
July 28, 2016 11:05 p.m.
personally, this is something i wouldn't take to friday night magic.
August 2, 2016 1:09 p.m.
bah-bammmm why do you say that? I appreciate criticism if it can be constructive.
August 2, 2016 2:32 p.m.
well, if you want a midrange disruption heavy mono black deck, Grey Merchant of Asphodel is very good.
August 3, 2016 1:36 p.m.
You have quite a bit of discard. Consider Waste Not?
August 3, 2016 3:07 p.m.
RubyStrings since this deck is trying to be aggressive in it's threats as possible, I don't think that Waste Not would make it into the mainboard, but it could possibly be a sideboard option, so it's been added to the maybeboard, thanks for the suggestion though!
August 3, 2016 3:12 p.m.
i just don't think this deck would do very well against things like elves, jund, burn, or any other regular modern deck.
August 3, 2016 3:33 p.m.
Actually bah-bammmm I've played this against each of those decks and most problems are resolved post-board, I'm not really expecting an $80 budget deck to beat out a deck like Jund which requires you to take a mortgage on your house in order to play, although I did play Jund a few days ago with this build and went 1-2. The vast majority of my meta is made up of aggro decks, and this deck usually takes the cake.
August 3, 2016 4:19 p.m.
i just couldn't see this deck beating big zoo or burn
August 3, 2016 4:40 p.m.
bah-bammmm To be fair Jund itself typically loses to burn, and I've had people call this a "Worse jund" build. I've had cards like Elixir of Immortality, Alms of the Vein, Collective Brutality come to save me in aggro/burn matchups, there's very, very few people in my meta that have the budget to play things like Tarmogoyf, and while it is true that this deck can potentially lose to burn, there's a reason burn is one of the most competitive budget decks.
August 3, 2016 5:01 p.m.
Wait, you're telling me that a budget deck can't beat every deck out there?
August 3, 2016 6:09 p.m.
frostdiggity unfortunately yes lol
August 3, 2016 11:28 p.m.
well, the issue is i couldn't see this going 5-0 at a tournament, maybe i could see it winning a game or two.
August 4, 2016 9:42 p.m.
bah-bammmm This is a BUDGET deck, if this deck was to be a consistent 5-0 build, there would have to be some upgrades that go above what I have put into this deck in terms of price range, cards like Liliana of the Veil and Phyrexian Obliterator are amazing and would make this deck even better than it already is, but are WAY outside of my budget and what I consider to be budget. Considering the price of the decks you suggested this deck not beating, I'd say that your meta plays at a much higher price range then mine does, this deck is for FNM play, not the Pro Tour.
August 5, 2016 4:06 a.m.
ive been play testing this deck quite a bit and i really enjoy it i even bought it in paper but once change that i made is swapping voldaren pariah for geralf's messenger a cheap threat that is much harder to remove, the main factor being that often times the 5/6 your about to get is not worth 3 creatures and a complete loss of momentum. further more your removal suite and your resilient threats are enough to beat them.
August 5, 2016 3:25 p.m.
libertymic I'm glad that people are enjoying my build, in reference to what you said about Geralf's Messenger I do agree that sometimes the Pariah can be a bit clunky at times, one of the main reasons I do play it is because of the Madness trigger, which allows me to discard it with something like Necrogen Mists and still get a card out, if it works for you then by all means play it, the card has been added to the maybeboard.
August 5, 2016 4:42 p.m.
I'd have to agree with the inclusion of Gary for the life loss and he is great to emerge from. Also if you want to a nice aggro 2-drop there is Despoiler of Souls
August 6, 2016 2:29 p.m.
Censuring Gary was originally in this build, but the reason he was taken out was because since we run Necrogen Mists often times we have to discard away cards in our hand, and almost always Gary would be a card I would discard because this deck wants to hit roughly five-six lands lands in total, and trying to sit on Gary just isn't something that's possible in this build. As for your suggestion of Despoiler of Souls it has been added to the maybe board, as I can't really see it replacing any of the cards that are mainboarded, as the ones listed are kinda necessary as two drops, but thanks for the suggestion!
August 6, 2016 10:16 p.m.
Do you play mtgo or xmage? If so could you post some gameplay footage? Besides Lili and Obliterator, what are some other good upgrades?
August 8, 2016 5:35 a.m.
I have been playtesting this deck a bit, and the only thing I'd say is that there are way too few lands. I think it would be much more consistent to run 23-24 lands, especially since this deck doesn't mind drawing extra as they can be used as discard fodder.
August 8, 2016 9:45 p.m.
Frostknife I do not play either of those, but I can put down a basic plan of how the deck works, and I'll add an unbudgeted version link of this list in the description soon.
All_Regent I will playtest the deck with 23 lands adding in two swamps and cutting two pariahs I will post an update about it if I feel the consistency is raised.
August 9, 2016 5:51 p.m.
I've bought this deck and will be taking it to a modern tournament next week at some point, so I'll let you know how it does if you want.
I expect there to be about 4/5 infect decks, one jund deck, one RG tron deck, and one GW bogles deck, so infect shouldn't be too bad given how much spot removal there is, but the others, I have no idea how it will go.
August 12, 2016 5:23 a.m.
K00lDudE1 If you'd like to post the results of your tournament, then by all means feel free to do so! I will be taking this deck to my own local FNM tonight and will be putting up the results tomorrow.
August 12, 2016 1:25 p.m.
Also, K00lDudE1 since I've playtested this deck against each of those decks, I can tell you how your match-ups will probably go.
Infect: Spot-Removal and Gatekeeper of Malakir will be what saves you, hopefully you hit it in your opening hand or on turn 2 in order to avoid things like Apostle's Blessing, post board swap out your mists and discard for more removal.
Jund: Both decks play very similarly in a lot of ways, since their lilianna will be doing most of the work for you, you'll probably want to get rid of mists and get some more removal spells. Having played it, this is usually a 50/50 matchup as both decks play enough consistent threats and removal to equalize most of the time.
RG Tron: This will probably be your worst match-up, having played against the T1 version, Karn really messes you up, and the consistent board hate can be a real problem, I'd board in Duress and Surgical Extraction, try to hit a Karn (or Ugin if they play it), and get rid of them all before they become a problem.
Bogles: This matchup is very dependent on your opening hand in game 1, Gatekeeper of Malakir will likely be your win ticket if you you draw it and play it on turn 3. Board in ratchet bomb, mutilate, and some more removal if they play things like kor spiritdancer.
August 12, 2016 1:38 p.m.
Ok, thanks, that helps a lot!
August 13, 2016 12:21 p.m.
If anyone could tell me about any cards that beat Boggles that I don't already play, that'd be awesome (Toughest matchup I've seen so far)
August 20, 2016 4:05 a.m.
August 20, 2016 4:10 a.m.
August 20, 2016 6:24 a.m.
Have you considered adding a Ghost Quarter or 2 or something along those lines?
August 20, 2016 11:42 p.m.
frostdiggity I originally tried to play with 2 ghost quarter, and found that rather problematic, as I don't play Urborg and I really need consistent pure black mana for my plays, otherwise I lose my curve and consistency, since Tron isn't a big deal in my meta anyway I personally don't worry about it, as anything less then Karn/Ugin isn't very scary anyway. But I will add it to the maybeboard in case people want to play it.
August 21, 2016 12:15 a.m.
Ravenous Rats, Rotting Rats, Chittering Rats all have incredibly strong effects and force your opponent into a topdecking position pretty quickly. Just something to consider.
September 16, 2016 3:44 a.m.
veeonix although I have seen those cards in a 'rat lock' style deck, the rats simply aren't threats in any real way, chittering rats is a fun way to lock an opponent out of the game, but the deck is styled more towards a value midrange deck. Thanks for the feedback!
September 16, 2016 8:30 p.m.
Maybe Bump in the Night over Alms of the Vein?. I like Erebos's Titan but it dies a little too easily to Dismember. I o like it quite a bit though. And also, doesn't Phyrexian Crusader go against what your trying to do since it has infect?
October 9, 2016 1:55 p.m.
First of all, thanks for the feedback! I always appreciate people taking the time to look at my decks.
Although Bump in the night is a more aggressive card, alms is actually played here for lifegain, since there are so many discard outlets in this deck, very rarely do we have to hardcast it.
While Erebos's Titan does die to dismember, I put it in here becuase of it's assistance to devotion, and immunity to many control decks, this also helps Erebos, God of the Dead become a creature faster. The alternative to this would be Phyrexian Obliterator which crushes aggro, but since that costs a hefty price, the other budget alternative you could play would be Abyssal Persecutor which does not die to dismemeber, and can be easily killed by plenty of cards in our deck when we need it to.
Phyrexian crusader is mostly in this deck to hate out lifegain, and although yes, it doesn't fit with the rest of the deck in terms of how it deals damage, it is supposed to be more of a road block for certain decks, and can be swapped out post board.
October 9, 2016 4:17 p.m.
This makes much more sense now. Very well constructed in the theory behind each card in its spot. Very Jund like in that essence. (a complement of course)
October 9, 2016 4:42 p.m.
February 1, 2017 8:41 p.m.
-Counterspell- It's really not, Flaying Tendrils actually exiles the creatures, which prevents cards like Voice of Resurgence and Bloodghast from returning or activating effects. Also, the mana cost is very relevent, as in order to achieve the same effect with Zenith, you'd have to pay an additional mana, and we might as well play Mutilate for an actual boardwipe. I get that the recurring facor can be very good, but I think it'd be better suited for Mono-black control, rather than a more midrange build.
February 1, 2017 8:46 p.m.
Why does it say this deck has -49 upvotes
June 11, 2017 3:04 p.m.
Not sure if anyone has asked this or not but why not lifebane zombie sideboard and vampire nighthawk main?
December 5, 2017 12:13 p.m.
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