What might be the "smallest" creature with the highest cmc?
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Posted on Aug. 19, 2017, 5:43 p.m. by Liszt
Which creature seems to have a very high cmc/size ratio? Although it's not necessary to really precisely estimate the creatures size I think players with knowledge about the lore might have a better shot at this, hence this forum instead of general. My guess would be either Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur or Akroma, Angel of Wrath.
Are you talking size as in size of the character, or stats?
August 19, 2017 6:21 p.m.
Size of the character. It really doesn't have to be really scientific though, just for little entertainment purposes. However, I think Epidilius scored the ace, haha.
Any other good suggestions?
August 19, 2017 6:25 p.m.
Well physically Jin-gitaxis is not small. I'm fairly certain all the praetors are huge.
August 19, 2017 6:40 p.m.
Oh that's interesting! Of course there is nothing to compare him with on the art but he doesn't look much taller than human size.
August 19, 2017 6:43 p.m.
Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil might be up there
August 19, 2017 7:29 p.m.
Wouldn't the largest creature be B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster)?
August 19, 2017 7:45 p.m.
I did the math and Autochthon Wurm is around 44.02 miles/71 kilometers long. (Read the flavor text ;))
August 20, 2017 3:39 a.m.
Decimator of the Provinces is relatively small, compared to the size of the trees around him atleast. Also there is Myojin of Infinite Rage and Myojin of Seeing Winds, but you can only guess their size. Though spirits shouldn't be that big imo. The easiest to compare actual sizes would probably be Blazing Archon, as it seems to be the size of a regular lion.
August 20, 2017 6:14 a.m.
I mean if we're arguing for a ratio then your best bet would be with faeries. As far as I know they are verry small, as seen in Puppeteer Clique, thus the Cmc to size ratio would be significantly increased. If puppeteers were 1/6 the size of a human, they'd only need 1/6 the Cmc for the same ratio, thus puppeteers with Cmc of 5 would probably be the highest ratio, despite the actual mana cost
August 20, 2017 8:58 a.m.
jon_hill987 says... #16
Emrakul, sure she is 15 or 13 mana, but is also so ridiculously large that what we see, gigantic as it is, is like a fish looking at fingers reaching into a pond.
August 20, 2017 10:06 a.m.
SSJ_Weegee says... #17
Marit Lage is bigger than Emrakul and has no cost, but I don't know if you'd count tokens.
August 20, 2017 10:49 a.m.
For lousy CMC-to-stats, I like the Scornful Egotist and Gigantomancer others have pointed out. But it's probably hard to beat Skyreach Manta, if cast with Colorless mana :-)
For smallest physical size, how about the 0/0 Germ Tokens that come with Batterskull, Mortarpod, and the like?
August 20, 2017 3:54 p.m.
Triton,
Idk. Maybe the Autochthon Wurm is much shorter, and was just moving in the same direction as the trainer, at about the same pace? :-D
August 20, 2017 3:58 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #21
Triton You also need to take into account the physical dimensions of Ravnica, who is to say it is the same size of earth?
August 20, 2017 6:11 p.m.
Oloro that wouldn't affect how long it is, just the units they used. The pace is what needs to be accounted for
August 20, 2017 7:25 p.m.
realBorborygmos says... #23
clayperce AND Oloro_Magic I DUNNO ABOUT THIS EARTH YOU SPEAK OF, BUT YOU ARE SO WRONG ABOUT STUPID WURM IT MAKES ME LAUGH, HAR HAR!
BELIEVE YOU ME: THAT WURM IS HUGE.
EVEN ANGRY ME AVOIDS FIGHTS WITH THAT THING! WELL, MOSTLY ...
August 20, 2017 7:35 p.m.
Doesn't matter if the worm is moving or not if you're walking inside of it. If it worked that way, standing up in your car should just drop you on the freeway going 0mph.
It's movements might matter if we are talking about position relative to the sun (if the wurm is traveling towards/away from the sunset) but since the wurm has a trainer, I'd think it's also safe to assume it has a pen/cage it's kept in.
August 21, 2017 4:02 p.m.
If you're talking pure ratio of total P/T to CMC I believe Stuffy Doll is the correct answer, but I'll check for others
August 30, 2017 4:56 p.m.
dthoreson813 says... #27
Scornful egotist ftw. Gad it was the first response.
September 5, 2017 9:13 a.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #28
How did Death's Shadow or even Vexing Devil not make this list?!?
September 29, 2017 3:34 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #30
vbfabled ahh well that explains why they weren't mentioned lol
Epidilius says... #2
Scornful Egotist
August 19, 2017 5:59 p.m.