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That's not a bad idea! I definitely still have my Unmake's. The Read the Bones hasn't been as impressive for me as I thought it would be. I'd be willing to cut down to 2. Thanks for the suggestion! Remember to throw up a +1 if you like the deck!
January 7, 2016 5:51 p.m.
January 25, 2016 2:06 p.m.
I have seen Utter End! Cool card.. but have you seen its rarity? Unfortunately, in pauper we're limited to commons only! Thanks for the suggestion though! Remember to +1 if you like the deck!
January 26, 2016 2:16 a.m.
My bad! I totally missed that this is a Pauper deck. Regardless, this is an awesome deck. My friend more or less has a similar build as a Modern deck. His build is voidborn. I +1'd your deck when I first saw it since I've played against it in a sense.
January 26, 2016 11:45 a.m.
I have a modern version of this deck too, and I've gotten to take it to a substantial number of tournaments actually. Here's my build: Bring Death Upon Them. Check it out!
January 27, 2016 11:09 a.m.
Yeah, this deck is really awesome. Yet there's isn't a lot of value. Just great synergy for a pauper deck.
January 28, 2016 12:43 a.m.
Yeah the "value" things is sorta an inside joke with my friends I play with, and value city is a reference to "Value City Furniture" lol. But yeah, it is supposed to just be a good synergy pauper deck! Throw up a +1 if you like the deck! Thanks man!
January 28, 2016 12:28 p.m.
I think the name Value City Furniture is enough to make me laugh. And I'm not in inside. +1 from me!
January 28, 2016 3:49 p.m.
I love the demigod aura cycle, and I would go as far as calling this an Edge of the Divinity deck. I have been trying to think of a way to break this for ages so, good on you! you beat me to it.
February 27, 2016 12:58 a.m.
Thank you very much! I've never thought of it that way, but I agree! You almost could call it an "Edge of the Divinity" deck haha
February 27, 2016 2:10 p.m.
Cruel control is grixis and based off of Cruel Control
Otherwise great deck! +1
March 6, 2016 3:38 p.m.
I only have 1 question, does this deck win? I have been looking for a pauper deck to play and I have made my friend a deck recently but after finding out Invigorate was banned it really discouraged me from infect being a solid deck, it just seems to fall flat. I love the Orzhov and the Golgari so this deck has a large instant appeal. My LGS will start having pauper tournaments soon and I would like to be able to win, at least placing within the prize pool. Thank you for your time.
March 8, 2016 7:15 p.m.
Thanks for your question! Short answer: Yes, it can. Longer answer: It's very dependent on the player (as most midrangy decks are). There are slight changes you can make in the mainboard to adjust to your local meta, and knowing when to play certain threats and hold off for removal is vital. Another huge factor to this deck is its sideboard! You have some of the most potent sideboard options available (especially in white). Often times I will board out 4 Nightsky Mimic and either 4 Castigate or 4 Beckon Apparition to board in tons of hateful sideboard control cards. This shifts the whole deck to more of a midrange-control than an aggro-midrange. One last note: CAREFUL with your Edge of the Divinity's! Against certain decks the best thing you can do is rush them onto creatures, but against others you HAVE to play around removal because a 2-for-1 it gonna be crippling if they bolt Nip Gwyllion in response to an Edge of the Divinity. In summary, yes it totally can, but just like other midrange decks with similar colors, it takes LOTS of practice to pilot it fluidly! Good luck at your LGS! Hope you can win some Pauper tourneys!
March 9, 2016 1:54 p.m.
April 12, 2016 2:37 a.m.
You're correct that exiling is better than destroying, but instant speed is FAR better than sorcery speed!
April 12, 2016 4:11 p.m.
Have you thought about using Defiant Strike as something a little cheaper with utility? Just a suggestion. It is also a cheap trigger card.
May 26, 2016 10:43 a.m.
And Defiant Strike is a cool card and all, but I'm not sure it would reasonably hold a spot in the 60. Perhaps in a 'Heroic' style deck it would be great, but in this deck it's either to get and extra point of damage or to cantrip. It also doesn't trigger Nightsky Mimic because it isn't black and white. Thanks for the suggestion though!
May 27, 2016 8:53 p.m.
Like the deck. I play a similar build, but less controlling, more aggro. I run undying evil in my sb. It's done so much work for me against all the kill spells and edict effects everyone is running that I'm giving serious thought to main decking them. I noticed your list doesn't include them. Just wondering if you tried them before?
June 13, 2016 7:55 p.m.
Thanks for the idea! Lemme throw that in maybeboard, and I'll try a few copies next time I play this! Remember to upvote and share the deck if you like it!
June 14, 2016 10:39 a.m.
nice budget pauper, and i like the flavour...
It tastes somewhere in between vanilla and chocolate. XD Edge of the Divinity OP
July 19, 2016 1:25 p.m.
Hi! I just want to say thanks I made this deck and i am loving it. I hope to take it to a tournament soon! Again, many thanks! I started playing magic with a black-white deck (clerics, 12 years ago, more or less) and i wanted to make something similar (but more effective xd). This doesn't use the same mechanics but is similar in spirit :D i'm in love with it <3
August 22, 2016 6:17 p.m.
Pillory of the Sleepless seems like it would be good in this deck.
September 23, 2016 4:21 p.m.
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Pillory of the Sleepless may be too slow for the deck though. If you look at the cards on the mana curve, you have to ask whether this would be a better replacement for Unmake or Read the Bones. I don't think that it would have as high of an impact on the board state nor would it provide a game-swinging amount of fuel. I definitely like the card though!
September 23, 2016 8:21 p.m.
Thanks! Another good suggestion I've definitely thought about! Again, the 3-drop slot is difficult to get into. While I like the 2/2 Flying body, the extort is kind of redundant with 4 Tithe Drinker's. It doesn't benefit you much to have multiples when you have a tight manabase. If that thing had lifelink.. that'd be another story! and probably not a common anymore!
October 1, 2016 9:36 a.m.
so if you have a Nightsky Mimic, then cast Edge of the Divinity on it, does it become 7/7 or 4/4? if it becomes a 7/7, that's a cool thing to do on turn 3 but if not you can always cast it on the lifelink thrull.
October 1, 2016 12:22 p.m.
big_kahuna333 it become a 7/7, and if you have two edges it become a 10/10. It happened to me once xD
October 2, 2016 10:08 a.m.
The ultimate draw is this (and I've done it in a tournament.. jaws dropped):
T1: Land - Nip Gwyllion
Granted, I used to run Ethereal Armor which made that combo much more possible (and I think that is what actually happened in the tourney). The point is, Edge of the Divinity is my favorite card in the deck, hands down.
October 2, 2016 1:26 p.m.
Is Guardian of the Guildpact really worth the 3 slots in the side? When do you use it?Nice one, btw.
December 7, 2016 3:41 a.m.
That's a great question. So often times, playing against a faster, more aggressive deck that can race, I'll take out a lot of the "black and white" synergy on cards such as Nightsky Mimic and bring in more control cards. When bringing out a lot of threats, it's necessary to have a finisher that is both versatile and resilient to removal. Guardian of the Guildpact is a great drop against mono-colored aggressive decks and even control decks that don't have much or any multi-colored removal. Some examples are mono-green elves, mono-green stompy, mono-black control (have to watch for sac-effects), and even mono-red burn.
December 7, 2016 12:42 p.m.
But Guardian of the Guildpact seems obstructively slow for that purpose. For example, elves almost always goes wide by turn 3, sure, you have an indestructible blocker, but they would have already taken over the board to an extent where you wouldn't be able to respond on turn 4. Stompy in pauper as well likes to go wide, and most decks run Vault Skirge as opposed to a grounded creature to get past cards like Guardian of the Guildpact in the two drop spot, meaning you can't even kill their turn-two play. Burn is almost exclusively looking to get damage in in the first couple turns with creatures, and then they just go around you with bolts. Some might not run creatures at all and just go to face.
December 31, 2016 1:04 p.m.
holy crap this is weird. SO when I first got into MTG I played with cards my buddy had, never getting my own. When I decided to buy my first deck I found a guy on craigslist who would make one for me. I watned a white black cause I wanted to be edgy and have a deck that what I thought would be like 'but wait, black and white don't work together'. So I met him a grocery parking lot, paid him probably too much and he gave me basically this deck. I have no idea where it is now, my exgirlfriend probably has it, but wow... this is cool to look at
January 30, 2017 12:09 a.m.
Well that's cool that you have a connection to this deck! I've heard a lot of people who have fond stories of their experiences with some of these cards played together.
And in regards to the Guardian of the Guildpact I went -2 of those and +1 Duress, +1 Holy Light. I see your point and agree mostly with it! The Duress helps control/combo matches; the Holy Light helps some of the aggro/swarm matchups.
Lemme know what you think! I always appreciate feedback!
January 30, 2017 12:19 a.m.
Dead Weight in place of Disfigure? Or maybe half and half. I know Disfigure is an instant but with Dead Weight, if they don't have any haste, then it's good cause the affects of that last longer. They're different, so just a thought.
February 7, 2017 3:22 p.m.
I definitely appreciate that suggestion, and that's a good point! I lean heavily towards the upside of instant speed, but that would be worth some playtesting for sure!
February 8, 2017 6:56 p.m.
I appreciate the suggestion! I've actually tried out Gift of Orzhova in a Modern version, and it's quite underwhelming. Almost all (if not all) of the creatures already practically have either flying or lifelink, so to give it the other one and +1/+1 for 3 mana is not great value. Compare this to Edge of the Divinity; that aura is such great value for one mana that it is worth the risk of getting two-for-oned with creature removal.
March 12, 2017 11:11 p.m.
fair enough, I appreciate hearing your opinion on the matter
March 13, 2017 1:07 a.m.
Amazing deck, this is my pauper extort deck
March 29, 2017 3:20 p.m.
Going up in the number of Unmake's may be a good thing, as Beckon Apparition can be kind of underwhelming at times. Three considerations are this though: 1) Beckon Apparition is capable of some cheeky combat plays where I can effectively "flash in" a 1/1 blocker and make Nightsky Mimic a 4/4 blocker, 2) Beckon Apparition is great against sacrifice effects where I can make another creature to sacrifice to something like Diabolic Edict, and 3) Beckon Apparition is just lower on the curve, which is just a huge advantage to this deck in general. Look how low the curve lies in this deck even compared to your extort list. That makes it really aggressive in game 1. All things considered, maybe I could shift around the number of Castigate and put some of those in the side. Thanks for the input, and remember to +1 if you like it!
March 29, 2017 3:45 p.m.
Nice brew man, really dig it! Have you thought about Mana Tithe against removal ? I've never built a pauer deck but got inspired to make one from yours. Gj +1
April 19, 2017 4:29 a.m.
Hey thanks! Glad you like it! I've actually run Mana Tithe in the side before, but it hadn't proved to be quite as powerful as I'd hoped it to be. Could be good against control decks where a cheap and unexpected response can swing the tempo by a lot, but I'd have a hard time trying to justify it in the main. Thanks for the suggestion!
April 19, 2017 3:34 p.m.
Fair enough and yeah, I meant it for the sideboard :) It is a really niche card for main.
April 19, 2017 4:52 p.m.
May 12, 2017 1:51 p.m.
Thanks for the input! I've definitely thought about running either Night's Whisper or Sign in Blood over Read the Bones. Between those two, Sign in Blood has a riskier mana cost, but can be used as pseudo-burn to the opponent in some cases. Either way, the reason I've gone with Read the Bones is that in the case that I wouldn't have the third mana to cast Read the Bones I likely still have other cards in my hand to play with my one or two mana, and so I wouldn't need to "reload" on cards yet. On the other hand, if I have no cards to play and do need to "reload" it is likely because I've gotten enough land to play my hand out pretty thoroughly. In that case, I can replenish my cards with the bonus scry (which is so underrated!). All in all, you may even still be right, because when I reload on cards, I would have an extra mana available that turn to play something - which is a key point. I'll have to playtest that some! Thanks again, and let me know what you think!
May 12, 2017 2:09 p.m.
Scry 2 is truly a powerful effect, but you should consider if is that relevant for your gameplan. This deck seems consistent enough to dismiss the effect for a faster card.
As a MBC player myself, Sign in Blood is the better option, although I miss the scry in some matchups. I've tested Read the Bones and the cmc affect my gameplan too much, so you could try Night's Whisper during some time and compare the results.
May 12, 2017 10:13 p.m.
That's a good point! Yeah I'll try it out for a little while and see how I like it by comparison.
May 13, 2017 4:25 p.m.
I have a question. I've noticed that all our creatures have 1 toughness which makes it a very easy target for cards like Nausea or Electrickery. Any ideas how to counter that?
August 22, 2017 10:40 a.m.
Great question! I've ran into that before. Some suggestions:
Play less creatures out to the field. This reduces the risk of 2 or 3-for-1's, and it gives them less value in using these cards.
Play a creature when they can't remove it immediately, then promptly buff it with Edge of the Divinity. I have to do this most frequently.
Slow down the game and side in control pieces, then rely on Guardian of the Guildpact more.
August 22, 2017 5:43 p.m.
What things would you change against a control deck UB/RB?
September 4, 2017 10:23 a.m.
Great question! I would certainly bring in hand disruption. I would also consider changing out some small, quick removal for more substantial, longer game removal. And I would consider bringing in a bomb that is harder to deal with but higher on the curve. Maybe it would look something like this:
-4 Disfigure - Control has less small creatures
-4 Nightsky Mimic - This creature is for going aggressive over the top in the early mid-game and requires momentum which we won't assume to have.
+2 Chainer's Edict - 4 hard removal spells in two cards; great for long games
+3 Duress - Bread and butter against control
+1 Guardian of the Guildpact - Hard to deal with other than an edict effect
+2 Ostracize - Depends on the quantity of their creatures
This is very general though.. I am more likely to take out Beckon Apparition against a deck that doesn't use their graveyard much, and there are plenty of other similar considerations. Sometimes bringing in a Disenchant would be the right move.
September 5, 2017 4:11 p.m.
for Dimir Control (https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pauper-dimir-control-32679#paper), do you recommend me to take away disfigure instead of beckon app?
I currently put mana tithe as card number 61 for the amount of removal in the meta, do you think this decision is better than worse?
I thank you so much for your deck, I started playing magic with it (two weeks ago) and I find it very funny, despite playing against delver and dimir hahaha
cheers from argentina
September 5, 2017 7:11 p.m.
In short, yes I would generally consider taking out Disfigure. Something to consider is that Beckon Apparition is largely good because of its synergy with Nightsky Mimic, so if you take that out, then maybe taking out Beckon Apparition would be better there. Mana Tithe is an interesting card, and I used to run 1 in my SB, but I'm not convinced yet of its value outside of an attrition-style control deck which might be a good transformative sideboard option.
Glad you've been enjoying the deck! Thanks for the input, and keep tinkering with it to find out what you enjoy and what works!
September 8, 2017 6:59 p.m.
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