Tortured Existence without Creatures in my Graveyard
Asked by darcnight 9 years ago
Hey folks,
Can i use Tortured Existence without cards in my graveyard?Yes, but than i have to take back the creature i just discarded, right?
Can i use the Madness ability from e.g. Big Game Hunter with Tortured Existence if no creatures are in the graveyard? I want to put Big Game Hunter onto the battlefield and finaly no creatures in my graveyard.
1a. i activate the ability of Tortured Existence it goes on the stack
2a. the ability resolves, i discard a creature card with madness...But during a abilty resolves and both players decide to work off the stack no player gets priority. Is this right? so i can not activate madness.
Yes if i have a creature card in my graveyard everything gets easier :-) Can you please help me with priority and resolving effects
when casting a spell or activating an ability, the payment is actually the last step. You would have to select targets, chose modes, etc. then you would pay the costs. Which would mean you would have to have targets for the tortured existence before you could activate it.
August 1, 2014 8:08 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #4
The process of casting a spell or activating an ability follows a certain series of steps. Choosing targets is one of the first couple steps, and paying costs is the very last step. If there are currently no legal targets for Tortured Existence , you can't activate it. There has to be at least one creature card in your graveyard to target.
Madness is 2 things, a static ability generating a replacement effect and a triggered ability. The static ability says "if you would discard this card, you can exile it instead of putting it into your graveyard", and the triggered ability says "when this card is exiled by that other effect, you can cast it for the madness cost". Triggered abilities are put onto the stack the next time a player gets priority. If the card was discarded as part of a resolving effect, the trigger is put onto the stack after that effect is finished resolving. If the card was discarded as part of a cost, the trigger is put onto the stack on top of whatever spell/ability the cost was paid for.
@GJTanner87: The basic syntax for making numbered lists always makes the list start at 1. I can't remember how to force it to start with a different number, but there might be something in the Formatting Guide.
August 1, 2014 9:58 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
About the lists: you could always just cheat and HTML it in.
GJTanner87 says... #1
1a. Yes, only a small amount of things in Magic don't use the stack
2a. Madness has a triggered ability attached to it that will go on the stack one the effect causing the discard has finished.
August 1, 2014 5:58 a.m.