Does Neheb, the Eternal increase the mana produced if combat is repeated somehow?
Asked by thepuppeter 4 years ago
Say I have Neheb, the Eternal, and Aggravated Assault on the field. During combat I attack and deal 5 damage to an opponent. Post combat, Neheb produces 5 red mana. I spend this mana on Aggravated Assault, giving me an additional combat phase and additional main phase. During my additional combat I attack and deal another 5 damage to an opponent.
During my second post combat main phase, do I get 0 mana, 5 mana, or 10 mana?
Someone argued that Neheb's ability only applies to the first post combat main phase, and not all others. Someone argued that it only counts as the amount of damage dealt during the second combat phase because I already got the mana from the first one. I argued that it increases each time because Neheb is cumulative for the turn, which hasn't ended yet, and doesn't specify once each turn.
The second person argued that by my logic, I wouldn't need to even deal damage during my second combat phase, and during my second post combat main I would still get 5 mana from Neheb from my original 5 damage, effectively allowing for infinite combat/main phase as long as the 2 cards remained on the field. I said that was exactly how the combo worked.
thepuppeter says... #2
Thank you! I argued with that second guy until I was blue in the face haha. The first guy I proved wrong pretty quickly with the quote you used, but the second guy kept saying "ye, but that doesn't mean it increases. You already got the mana. You don't get it again. You need to keep dealing damage"
January 21, 2020 7:14 a.m.
The thing the second guy is missing is that the ability doesn't track whether or not you've already collected the mana. It just looks for the start of a main phase after combat on your turn, and then counts how much life your opponents have lost so far that turn, ignoring whether or not the same ability has already triggered and given you mana.
It functions the same as if you were to copy the triggered ability, say with a Strionic Resonator. You would have two copies of Neheb's ability, and the second copy to resolve would give you just as much mana as the first (assuming your opponents don't suffer additional life loss between the two abilities resolving).
Boza says... Accepted answer #1
10 mana.
Neheb adds 1 mana for 1 life your opponents have lost for any reason this turn. As per the gatherer entry for Neheb:
"If you somehow have more than two main phases in a turn, each main phase after your first one is a postcombat main phase, and Neheb’s last ability triggers at the beginning of each of them."
Heck, even if you do not attack, as long as you activate Aggravated Assault, Neheb will trigger at the beggining of your new main phase. If you control Neheb and your opponents have lost at least 6 life this turn, you have infinite mana with Aggravated Assault.
January 21, 2020 7:05 a.m.