Creature — Spider
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
Printings View all
|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Common|
|Core Set 2019 (M19)||Common|
|Global Series: Jiang Yanggu & Mu Yanling (GS1)||None|
|Magic 2014 (M14)||Common|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
|Duels of the Planeswalkers (DPA)||Common|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Common|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Common|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Common|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Common|
|Eighth Edition (8ED)||Common|
|Seventh Edition (7ED)||Common|
|Classic Sixth Edition (6ED)||Common|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Common|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Common|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Common|
|Revised Edition (3ED)||Common|
|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Common|
|Unlimited Edition (2ED)||Common|
|Collector's Edition (CED)||Common|
|International Collector's Edition (CEI)||Common|
|Limited Edition Beta (LEB)||Common|
|Limited Edition Alpha (LEA)||Common|
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Giant Spider Discussion
3 months ago
There are loads more, but for examples.
1 year ago
DiverDown Did some small digging on the issue, and I have found at least one common denominator.
The following cards from Magic Game Night - (GNT) have incorrect legality:
And in Global Series: Jiang Yanggu & Mu Yanling - (GS1), only the cards listed below works:
- Brilliant Plan
- Cloak of Mists
- Giant Spider
- Meandering River
- Timber Gorge
- Welkin Tern
This shows that only NEW entries in the database are affected by this bug, cards that existed before which only got an updated image in the sets didn't get affected.
I have tried to edit cards(using the "fix card" function) but that does not yield any result at all, everything looks okay in the forms when submitting the cards.
I also tried submitting an entry of an existing card in another set/expansion to see if it changed something, but it didn't.
So the entries in the database are probably corrupted, manual deletion and readding is maybe a way to go for individual cards. But what causes the bug I have no idea of.
To investigate this issue further it would be good if I have more cards to look at, so tag them here if you find any.
Arvail : I hope not, except for this bug I think it works somewhat good.
1 year ago
Another card that I really wish to see reprinted is Ancient Spider, and this would have been a great set in which to reprint it, preferably demoted to an uncommon. For only a slightly stricter casting cost over Giant Spider, it is generally superior to that card in every way.
1 year ago
I can understand that actually. Giant Spider was in the first welcome deck i played in.
1 year ago
1 year ago
2 years ago
First, for future reference, the Commander Deck Help forum is used when you have questions about a deck you are building. If you have questions about how a certain card works, or the interaction between multiple cards, please use the Rules Q&A section of this site. There's usually a couple players lurking there who will answer your questions in fairly short order. I've taken the liberty of moving your thread.
Moving on to your question, this will not work.
Identity Thief's trigger occurs during the declare attackers step. Once you declare it as an attacker, its ability goes on the stack and resolves, still during the declare attackers step.
Then we move into the declare blockers step. At this point, your Identity Thief no longer has a power or toughness less than 1, so it can be blocked.
Compare to Dwarven Warriors. If Dwarven Warriors activated its ability targeting Identity Thief, Identity Thief could not be blocked even after it transforms. Dwarven Warriors, unlike Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive, only cares about Power at the time the ability is activated. This would have a lasting impact on Identity Thief, even after Identity Theif's power became greater than 2. In fact, this was referenced in the card's Alpha text: Dwarven Warriors.
2 years ago
For your future reference, this site has a Rules Q&A section for use when you have questions about individual cards or card interactions. The Commander Deck Help Forum is for discussing general deck-building. I've moved your question to the Rules Q&A Section (though it seems to have played some games with your code blocks, and for that I apologize).
To answer your questions:
Example 1: Mindslaver allows you to make all decisions that player can make. This includes the decision to send their commander into the command zone.
Player A initially controls and owns Giant Spider.
Player B takes Giant Spider - B controls the Spider; A owns the spider.
When A Mindslaves B, it is still technically B taking all of B's actions. You might be making the decisions, but ultimately B is still the player who is acting. As such, you cannot force B to make an illegal decision such as having Player B target a permanent another player owns, regardless of whether it is your creature or not.
Since the above answer does not get to your second round of questions under Example 2, Let's change the hypothetical: let's say Aminatou, the Fateshifter's ability read "permanent you control" instead of "you own."
In this situation, the Giant Spider would return to the battlefield under Player B's control. This is for the same reason as the above--while Player A might be making the decisions, it is still Player B taking the actions.