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TheSeventhNinja on Return of Slivers

2 weeks ago

I have a feeling that is going to be long. Ah well....

First of , w999 Thanks for partially agreeing with me, i thought i was alone in this world. Lol.

@ Demarge - I hope im getting everything you say correct, it's a little hard to understand as it's pretty much one long sentence, lol.

Printing a card in a new set doesn't mean Wizards is doing anything new. Counterspell is a Counterspell . No matter WHERE it is. Same with Slivers, they do the same thing, i mean just look at the cards,

Groundshaker sliver = Battering Sliver / Horned Sliver

Blur Sliver = Firewake Sliver / Heart Sliver / Reflex Sliver

Battle Sliver = Bonesplitter Sliver

Sentinel Sliver = Synchronous Sliver

Steelform Sliver = Sinew Sliver / Muscle Sliver / Plated Sliver

Striking sliver = Hey look! There's a new one! ONE new one!

How on earth are any of those doing anything new! Ok, striking Sliver! Thats great! There's one!

I know someone is going to say "But these slivers only affect yours!". But come on! These are being made for casual players as some of you have said! But for casual players that's not going to make a huge difference because casual players arent going to face other Sliver decks that much!

And the chart above just proves there doing the same thing!

@ Cirdan13 - Yeah, exalted into black IS different! Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis 's ability never could have been done with bant colors!

Having Slivers do it to only your creature certainly is a change, but not big enough to bring them back! Look at the chart above! There's barely a difference!

Giant Spider is only a single card. Not a whole tribe.

I agree with the fact that slivers aren't for me! I know there's a lot of people out there who are happy! But if wizards was going to throw them a bone, throw a different bone. Not a bone thats already been all chewed up and slobbered over.

So it might help them play against another Sliver deck! But thats one matchup! Out of thousands in the casual playing world!

I sort of mind when Wizards bring something back, ill admit that, but shouldn't they bring something back that can be changed up a little? I know why they have to rotate things back in, and even though i like new things, i know other people will enjoy this. But really, nothing new is happening.

Putting a few slivers in the core set doesnt help drafting M14, they'll just be in the way.

If a core set is meant to start out new players, there's another reason not to bring in slivers. It's good that the slivers ability now only affect other slivers you control. Thats helpful for a new player! But an avid new player whose really excited will find out about older slivers, and it will be hard for them to understand that you can help your opponent.

With this 'new new world order' Wizards is doing, you'd think they'd be more careful.

I know Magic has things i like and dont, and this is something i dont. Period.

Its a vaild point that i shouldnt dwell on things i dont like. Your right. But im not 'dwelling' as you call on it. But I entirely fail to see how on earth that has anything to do with the fact that i think Wizards shouldnt have done this. What does that have to do with anything?

Sorry if i seem a bit rude, i dont mean too. I just get a little heated up sometimes, lol.

Cirdan13 on Return of Slivers

2 weeks ago

TheSeventhNinja: It seems like all core sets have a little bit of throwback to them. For example, M13 had Exalted. I think that Wizards does this to give casual, EDH, Legacy, Eternal, etc. players new toys for their stale decks. I believe they also do this to update cards, mechanics, tribes, etc. to fit onto the current rules and knowledge about the game. You said that exalted did something different just because it went into black. Well the Slivers now only give their bonuses to your Slivers rather than all of them. How is that not different? Also did you complain when you found out that Giant Spider was going to be printed in M12? I mean, up to that point, it had been printed in EVERY CORE SET. M13 was the first time it wasn't. Just because Slivers are not for you doesn't mean that there isn't a large group of Magic players that have been hoping and dreaming that Wizards might one day bring back Slivers and so Wizards has finally decided to throw them a bone and print a few more of them in a core set while making them slightly better by not helping your opponent if you happen to actually play another Sliver deck. It keeps players happy and therefore keeps Magic a viable product. I suppose that they could always just try and print new stuff but then you are making the game unappealing to new players who will never get certain tribes, mechanics, spells, creatures, etc. unless they want to search out and buy or trade for them specifically which would likely be more expensive for all of it if you knew that they will NEVER be back. So you would basically be discouraging new players which only has one out come, the end of Magic. So if you enjoy the game, you should appreciate that Wizards is SMART enough to keep rotating some of the older yet popular cards/cardtypes into CORE SETS to keep the game alive. I capitalized "core sets" to remind you of the fact that that is where they will be. They are not (as far as I know) planning to do a block with them which is where Wizards does most of the creative new stuff as you even said yourself. Don't get so upset about a couple of cards out of a core set which is intended as kind of a broad overview of the game so new players have a place to start and get a feel of what sort of things are possible in this wonderful game. Which brings be to one last point, YOU know that Slivers have been done before but the 14 year old kid on the other side of town who just got his first cards doesn't and he may think that the new Slivers are to greatest thing ever. Magic is like every other aspect of life, there are things you are going to like and things you are not going to like. Are you really going to dwell on the things you don't like to the point where you start to forget and ignore the things that you do? "Magic is slowly becoming less fun for me. Because of things like this." If so that is your prerogative, I just wouldn't advise you to take that kind of approach to your every day life or you are likely to have a very disappointing life.

vic on DGM Draft Debate - Pack ...

3 weeks ago

I think I'm ready to say we've been signaled to go Golgari.

And I vote for the Giant Spider . I mean Towering Indrik . Everything else is either junk or too expensive for what it does.

Mewgle on Dying Sculptures

1 month ago

Move over Giant Spider , Silklash Spider , the spider of all spiders wants in.

Chubbub on Cards alike

4 months ago

Giant Spider and Towering Indrik . Trollhide and Savage Silhouette . They're both exactly the same.

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