Official Commander 2015 Spoiler Thread

Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum

Posted on Oct. 15, 2015, 5:43 a.m. by ChiefBell

This can be a centralised place where most of the discussion around Commander 2015 spoilers takes place.

The Wizards announcement with the release date and more details is here

So here we go:

Another year of commander precons and another year of excitement. What are you looking forward to? What do you hope for? What would you really dislike?

JWiley129 says... #1

xcn - But you're never supposed to go full knight! D:

November 5, 2015 9:09 a.m.

CastleSiege says... #2

Well, glad I traded my Black Market away 2 weeks ago lol

November 5, 2015 9:32 a.m.

UGAslime says... #3

Anyone considered this idea for Ajun, the Shifting Flame?

Fill the Deck with cantrips, and a few payoffs like Talrand, Sky Summoner and Young Pyromancer

With 7 mana and a bunch of cheap cantrips, you can go through about 1/3 of your deck in one turn

Finding whatever you want makes a combo deck extremely possible

November 5, 2015 9:53 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #4

With Ajun you can also use the ever popular, Commander staple, Mindmoil! /s

November 5, 2015 10:01 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #5

Mind urn

Artifact

You have no maximum hand size.

: Add to your mana pool.

November 5, 2015 10:19 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #6

WE've got English names!

And tokens!

(Crib Swap)?

(BEARS!)

(Rapid Hybridization)

November 5, 2015 10:43 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #7

Source?

My guess is Orochi Hatchery or Sosuke's Summons reprint.

November 5, 2015 10:51 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #8

Straight outta Compton!

aka the Mothership

November 5, 2015 10:55 a.m.

themindxyz says... #9

November 5, 2015 10:55 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #10

Specifically for the tokens? I'm not finding it.

November 5, 2015 11 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #11

NecroPony - It's the Arcana for today.

EDIT: inserted link

November 5, 2015 11:04 a.m. Edited.

GoldGhost012 says... #12

There's a Gold token too. Looks like a Gild or King Macar, the Gold-Cursed reprint, unless it's something entirely new.

November 5, 2015 11:10 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #13

I change my mind due to new information. Bestial Menace reprinted. I bet.

November 5, 2015 11:11 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #14

I didn't include all the tokens on purpose, because it would make this page a bit long.

November 5, 2015 11:12 a.m.

That shapeshifter token is disgusting!

November 5, 2015 11:14 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #16

StealthyGunnar have you never seen a changeling?

November 5, 2015 11:20 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #17

StealthyGunnar - All the changelings have the same general shape: Avian Changeling, Taurean Mauler, War-Spike Changeling, Mirror Entity, etc.

November 5, 2015 11:22 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #18

Call the Skybreaker is back! One of my favorite cards of all time!

Talrand too?

And then there's Mystic Confluence. That card is a budget replacement for Cryptic Command and arguably better. I'm sure as hell going to buy a playset for any... "casual" play.

And now for a couple of non-U/R token cards...

Sigil of the Empty Throne is probably here, as well as Bestial Menace (judging from the snake, wolf and elephant).

November 5, 2015 11:28 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #19

Although the Bestial Menace snak isn't there only the Kamigawa and patagia viper snake...

November 5, 2015 11:33 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #20

And is it just more or do we have an abysmally low amount of creatures with Myriad? It's only the banshee and the snake, right?

November 5, 2015 11:34 a.m.

The2kman says... #21

GoldGhost012 Likely going to be Gild for removal in the W/B deck, since Macar doesn't really fit into any of the two decks.

November 5, 2015 11:34 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #22

NecroPony - So far. The decklists will be spoiled tomorrow, so be patient :)

November 5, 2015 11:37 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #23

If my math is right we're only getting 8 new cards and 1 of them is the black confluence (which I'm excited for).

I'm thinking it'll be Disentomb, Doom Blade and Sign in Blood for .

November 5, 2015 11:40 a.m. Edited.

Spootyone says... #24

Just going to go ahead and put it out there that I think it's more likely we will see Talrand's Invocation than Talrand himself. They seem to like putting in fairly weak spells that fit versus powerful legendary engine creatures.

Also, don't they only put in three legends per deck, all in the colors?

November 5, 2015 12:03 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #25

Spootyone No. They put Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" as well as Sharuum the Hegemon, Oloro, Ageless Ascetic and Sydri, Galvanic Genius in Eternal Bargain, Commander 2013.

November 5, 2015 12:06 p.m.

greyninja says... #26

NecroPony here's a few myriad cards on the Magic facebook page that aren't on mythicspoiler

(serra angel got an upgrade:)

November 5, 2015 12:31 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #27

They kinda stink. I like the snake one best, but the one's alright.

November 5, 2015 12:35 p.m. Edited.

JWiley129 says... #28

NecroPony - Wait, the Myriad creature that draws cards is the best one? Say it isn't so! /s

I like the Angel, specially in decks where they care about number of creatures like with Voice of Resurgence elemental tokens or Seraph of the Masses.

November 5, 2015 12:57 p.m.

Spootyone says... #29

Understood, understood. Still, I just get this feeling it'll be the invocation...Can't really put my spoot on it.

November 5, 2015 1:03 p.m.

nayrash5 says... #30

Herald has some really pretty art, the Giant not so much.

November 5, 2015 1:10 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #31

That's so cool!

November 5, 2015 1:53 p.m.

elpokitolama says... #32

Oooowwww yeaaaaah, political card! That's fucking great! :D

November 5, 2015 2:25 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #33

Which deck do you think Urza's incubator will be in?

November 5, 2015 2:41 p.m.

elpokitolama says... #34

In my opinion, definitively the W/R one, for soldiers and giants!

Or maybe will it be in the G/U one, for snakes? But I can't see it anywhere else :p

November 5, 2015 2:43 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #35

I REALLY hope it's snakes. But giants make more sense...

November 5, 2015 2:46 p.m. Edited.

nayrash5 says... #36

NecroPony is not Indiana Jones. I could see the Incubator being in the Boros one, considering the high price of Angels and Kalemne wanting things with higher CMC.

November 5, 2015 2:48 p.m. Edited.

CuteSnail says... #37

nayrash5 Accurate.

November 5, 2015 2:50 p.m.

Urza's Incubator is getting a reprint? Not like I have about eight casual tribal decks that all need that card. Nope, not in the slightest. looks around shiftily

Also Black Market hype. That'll probably be in the W/B deck. Yay a reason to get that deck. Or just buy Market as a single. Yeah that's probably what I'll do.

November 5, 2015 3:05 p.m.

RedUndead40 says... #39

canterlotguardian, I'm imagining that Black Market will be in the Golgari deck, since both their commanders are death focused. Plus, BW already has Karmic Justice coming for their "expensive enchantment" slot.

November 5, 2015 3:12 p.m.

Karmic Justice reprint? Hype. Also that would work, as the only two Commander decks I really wanted to get are the U/R one for absolute certain (no big soup rice) and the B/G one possibly.

November 5, 2015 3:15 p.m. Edited.

themindxyz says... #41

Did anyone else really want new planeswalker commanders in this set?

November 5, 2015 3:22 p.m.

Chubbub says... #42

SO if WoTC wants to finish all the cycles, we got 4 magus left, 1 myriad creature left (the green one), and the black confluence. Hopefully some are legacy playable, because right now, I count 0 legacy playable cards.

November 5, 2015 3:23 p.m.

RedUndead40 says... #43

themindxyz, personally, no. Planeswalker commanders were generally disliked because they A) completely remove commander damage as a win condition, and B) can be more easily removed with the player damage redirect rule.

They are interesting, but I feel like Teferi was the only really good one because blue is just naturally better at controlling threats to himself.

November 5, 2015 3:25 p.m.

RedUndead40 as a control player, I actually liked Ob Nix the best. I built an insane sac/stax deck with him at the helm. Teferi is best for being in control color, but Ob Nix just worked out best for what I was going for.

November 5, 2015 3:27 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #45

I think that it's commonly accepted that Daretti, Scrap Savant is the best of the C14 Planeswalker Commanders. A mono-red Smokestack deck with Daretti at the helm can be quite punishing.

November 5, 2015 3:39 p.m.

I never Tinkered around much with Daretti. Guess I missed my calling, eh? I still like Ob Nix for what I use him for. Daretti looks fun, though. Maybe not fun for my opponent, but fun nonetheless (funtheless?).

November 5, 2015 3:41 p.m.

greyninja says... #47

bye bye planeswalkers

November 5, 2015 4:03 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #48

November 5, 2015 4:05 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #49

Vorel of the Hull Clade does NOT like that card :(

November 5, 2015 4:08 p.m.

Oh shit it's AEther Snap on a creature. Me gusta. Stax deck here it comes.

November 5, 2015 4:10 p.m.

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