My only problem is why only 2 Lashwrithe.
February 28, 2012 7:41 a.m.
March 1, 2012 11:31 p.m.
March 3, 2012 9:10 p.m.
It would be really nice, but the problem is always making it only 60, and everything in this deck has serious synergy. Thanks for the thought though!
March 3, 2012 9:33 p.m.
if you guys wanna check out my mono black aggro deck, its called deck:dablackattack... id love some of your advice taht will make it a first place contender
March 4, 2012 6:35 p.m.
I playtested this against my humans deck. I found that you tended to run out of gas in the late game, and got land-flooded many times. Most often though, the deck just couldn't handle being swarmed by creatures.
March 4, 2012 7:22 p.m.
I have rarely been land flooded when keeping a good hand. You honestly have to build the deck and try it against other decks to see its full potential. But I appreciate the input.
Not really looking for advice, I love it the way it is, I just wanted the world to check it out.
March 4, 2012 9:32 p.m.
I only play black, and/or blue, and will have to give this a try.
March 5, 2012 2:49 p.m.
I built a Smallpox deck before Innistrad came out. You should look at the synergy of Vengeful Pharaoh and Reassembling Skeleton with Smallpox. Both creatures can be discarded to pox and Liliana of the Veil, and I was using the skeletons as a "Squadron Hawk" type of advantage when caw-blade was around. Also, skeletons love swords and Batterskulls.
March 10, 2012 12:46 p.m.
Damn dude, this deck is NASTY. I playtested it several times and it always seems to come out strong. Props.
March 10, 2012 3:27 p.m.
It's close to my mono black Zombie deck. Only difference is that I had +1 Tragic Slip. Between the synergy of doing a Smallpox or Altar's Reap, you pretty much get Morbid very easily to use the Slip's ability. And I'm also running Mortarpod. The land count may be too high as this deck only really needs four land to run everything.
March 11, 2012 11:16 a.m.
Well after playtesting it further, I think that you have too much mana. It caused this to consistently lose to my Discard and Die! deck. Still a close game. I'm sure if this deck had a bit less mana it would've won. I know you have a lot for Smallpox, but I think it could still use a trim. Like I said though, really solid deck, kudos on this.
March 11, 2012 4:53 p.m.
BTW, I gave you credit on my Discard and Die! deck as playing with this deck really helped me improve it. It started out as a discard deck, but standard doesnt have a whole lot of support for that type, so I had integrated smallpox as well. But after viewing this deck, I was able to make some changes to make the smallpox aspect much more refined, so thanks.
March 11, 2012 5:06 p.m.
Mander, I playtested the two decks and your lost 0-2
March 11, 2012 8:17 p.m.
Mander I feel like your deck lacks focus. Id say cut some of the fat and focus on zombie aggro as a secondary win condition.
March 11, 2012 9:19 p.m.
oh haha, I guess I got lucky. Like I said they were close games, but when I played mine won twice in a row. This one had some bad mana floods though.
March 11, 2012 9:51 p.m.
Mind you I've made some changes since I played the decks. One of the bigger changes was adding the myrs, and I haven't tried it out with them yet. Perhaps it was a bad move. Were those there when you playtested them?
March 11, 2012 9:54 p.m.
ok, yes this deck is brutal, but one question, why not play a no more than 3 CMC especially since smallpox blows up land, it might be helpful to add in distress? or even go for some phyrexian splash like Mutagenic Growth or even throw in something like Phyrexian Crusader it will help with controlling token decks which are mainly white, and you can easily win with a lashwrithe on him, i would throw no more than two just because of the manabase. and you might want to look at throwing in Isolated Chapel/Woodland Cemetery as a back of the mind idea, because this will be hard to run after the switch out, so maybe think of some ways to run this with the newer stuff. umm idk if it really needs help besides maybe a Black Sun's Zenith just for the kick to the shin effect, other than that idk, nice idea though i can see why it wins in the meta game, but just to let you know, if you come up against a removal or aggro deck, it will destroy your deck, because those decks usually do not have to worry about discard, and there is nothing that makes them nervous during the mid game, i've played it against a few of my aggro and two of my control, and the control just str8 up blows through, the aggro has more of a slow but steady laugh in your face effect. id try running a little more removal (especially to trigger tragic slip, maybe add Victim of Night
March 12, 2012 12:47 a.m.
ya ive got a deck built like this one except its straight agro i really like this deck though not gonna give any advice :) the only zombie you have that i dont is the Phyrexian Obliterator which i subbed out for 4 Skinrender which is also nice to have as a creature removal and i run about 14 removal spells lol its pretty nasty i dont even go for creature pump ups and i only have 3 late game winners 1 Sorin's Vengeance 1 Sorin Markov 1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed i know it seems random but they give a like you said synergy to my deck after destroying all thier creatures and pecking them for 1s 2s and 3s one of these late gamers are a real kick to the nads
March 12, 2012 10:55 a.m.
March 12, 2012 11:35 a.m.
If you are encouraging me to change obliterator you are out of your mind son, If he resolves it usually makes the enemy so uncomfortable its incredible. And since this deck is mono-black, if i get 4 mana its game time... praying they dont have spot removal of course.
March 12, 2012 11:40 a.m.
no no never said to replace anything in your deck lol was just mentioning i run Skinrender in place of your obliterator is all :P and yes i miss worded my first post i realize obliterator isnt a zombie or i would prob use it in my zombie deck lol
March 12, 2012 11:58 a.m.
where I LOVE Skinrender due to the fact that he can neuter titans (especially if he has a lord making him a 4/4) obliterator is just so broken... both are solid choices but I know which I would hate seeing more.
I will ask this SexyNoodle90 do you have a plan to deal with Dismember? I only ask because everyone here runs it (or Tragic Slip in sideboard for this guy. Also important to note inquisitor's flail on obliterator is just mean.
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March 12, 2012 12:16 p.m.
I'm thinking about playing this deck, what are good startting hands?
March 14, 2012 9:37 p.m.
i like it +1 for sure. if anywould could comment on my mono black deck it would be much appreciated! deck:blue-eyes-white-phyrexian-obliteratorplz-comment
March 15, 2012 8:33 p.m.
I know you're not really looking for advice, but Skirsdag High Priest seems like it'd be wonderful with the current set up. Smallpox, get advantage in everything, drop a 5/5 flier? Seems pretty solid.
March 16, 2012 10:12 a.m.
Liliana of the Veil is to expensive here, what i can use instead of her?
March 17, 2012 1:26 a.m.
It was pointed out to me in a duh moment that Doom Blade can take care of an Inkmoth Nexus whereas Go for the Throat cannot ... Although with your control and Pox elements, have you ran into issues with Wolf Run Ramp and Standard Tezzereret Affinity?
March 21, 2012 12:37 a.m.
This deck looks sweet! the only annoying thing is black is getting blown out by Celestial Purge :(
March 24, 2012 1:39 p.m.
I like saving Altar's Reap for just such an occasion :D
March 24, 2012 6:23 p.m.
Liliana of the Veil is to expensive here, what i can use instead of her?
March 31, 2012 9:59 a.m.
i have a similar deck. Love the pox idea. Not sure if it would flow in mine tho. +1, mono black control is the way to go. Check out my deck http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zombies-627/
April 1, 2012 2:13 a.m.
Have you considered Sangromancer? I feel like that card is overlooked a lot. Four sources of discard in your deck, one repeatable and even more with SOFAF sideboard. Not even going to count how many things kill opponent creatures. Wouldn't it be great to get a 3 life snack every time one of those things happened, AND have a flying 3/3? Just something to consider, don't move out Phyrexian Obliterator or anything. But you've been talking about synergy all throughout this thread and this card screams synergy.
April 1, 2012 12:53 p.m.
Well, The problem is that more times than not I have trouble getting to 4 land. I mean if a game goes late then sure... But i'm usually using small pox turn 3-4 to give myself an advantage, and getting that 4th land drop is iffy sometimes. If she was a zombie there would be more grounds for adding her. Only thing I can think about changing is -1 Despise and maybe -1 Black Cat or Diregraf Ghoul.
April 2, 2012 12:34 a.m.
This deck looks more than just a little bit aggravating to say the least, I love it.
I have to agree on the suggestion of Sangromancer, especially if your discard engine builds up more. Remember, Mind Rot is in the format, so against decks where there yard isn't there second hand, it could all to easily lead to a blow out.
This also actually reminds me of the discard deck from DotP 2012, where one of the most useful creatures is that of Massacrer Wurm as a win condition. While he is expensive to cast, against some match ups; you play him and well...you just win. I would consider options like these for the sideboard. While it may be defined by your local meta, three Surgical Extractions seems a little excessive.
April 2, 2012 6:29 a.m.
April 6, 2012 3:21 p.m.
or inquisitor's flail and darksteel plate on obliterator
I played around with this deck a bit and heres what i came up with. One of the worse match up for this deck must be f-rites and token making decks since their cmc usually is around 2-3 aggro can also cause trouble specially thoose RDW so id actually suggest swiftfoot boots in side against RDW matchup put a nice little hexproof on ur obe and all rdw can do is cry _.
i would also consider taking out that one drop diregraf ghoul and 1 black sun zenith for 1-2 Skirsdag High Priest or 1-2 cementary reaper's (the later worked fine for me specially against rites since i could fuck up their grave and it made the zombies heavy hitters. Another bonus with cementary reaper was that i could make use of my own grave.
maybe throw in a ghoulraiser or 2 if he dont mess up ur mana base to much since almost all ur creeps are zombies Ghoulcaller's Chant could work to giving u a recycle effect on your creatures
just a few of my suggestions hope they are of any help
April 22, 2012 3:27 p.m.
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|Last updated||5 years|
This deck is not Modern legal.Highlight illegal cards
|Illegal cards||Black Sun's Zenith, Despise , Phyrexian Obliterator, Geth's Verdict, Go for the Throat, Smallpox, Lashwrithe|
|Folders||Good decks, favs, Mono black, Sheap, l, fav, cool decks, Cool Decks|
|Top rank||#2 on 2012-03-18|