Kynaios and Tiro, Defenders of Rainbow Vale

Commander / EDH fifthdawn

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terribleplayer says... #1

I like it, despite my bias against four colours (tried it years back and it was awkward - I hope that changes with the new commanders). I would like to see this deck called "Night at the Roxbury", but that's just my sense of humour.

November 8, 2016 8:43 p.m.

fifthdawn says... #2

Thank you!! Good suggestion!

November 13, 2016 2:34 a.m.

TheRedGoat says... #3

Soooo, Idk what you're build is doing, but I'll admit its doing something.

The initial wall of text is honestly a little hard to read through at first, but I think I get that you're trying to build up the theme behind playing the deck as a "cycle of life" type deal. Normal turns start with drawing a card and most likely playing a land before proceeding to play more spells. With the new couple commander though that gets mirrored at the end of the turn, mechanically doubling up on your game presence, while thematically being life having gone through its cycle to begin anew on the next turn.

Something I feel you might have missed about this mentality though is that Ink-Treader Nephalim also exemplifies this idea. Only it runs more with an "all life is connected" theme that several other creatures now utilize as well (your commander including). Mechanically and thematically Ink treader fits this theme because, if it is out, a single Path to Exile is a board wipe, but also Traitorous Blood is an Insurrection, which anyone can play. And beyond this even, you gain access to Enchanted Evening cards along side Opalescence and also Living Lands (and about 5 other spells saying the exact same thing) that alter the meaning of "what is alive". Even just running Mycosynth Lattice and March of the Machines carries the reference to machines becoming sentient (and also tokens + Ink Treader are awesome).

But the point of this is that Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis are meant to follow the same theme of "turn opponent advantage into your advantage". As in, cards like Lifegift, or Consecrated Sphinx or even Dragonlair Spider.

ahem*

Sorry for my ranting. I beat around the bush a bit and, to be more direct, feel that your deck is too much goodstuff versus the potential themes you could be playing. This is merely some of my thoughts on it, and I have on of my own I will be building in the manner directed above so I have at least some bias as to how I feel the couple should be played out.

November 19, 2016 1:42 a.m.

fifthdawn says... #4

Great feedback! Thanks for taking the time to add your thoughts. These comments are perfect. Indeed, there are a lot of my pet strategy and synergy cards in here. Because it is my primary EDH build, the one mostly foiled, etc I have filled the deck with many pet cards and pet synergies, like Rhys the Redeemed being able to make permanent copies of the tokens created by Feldon of the Third Path, etc. I dislike non-creature spells unfortunately because Earthcraft wants as many cheap creatures as possible. Thanks for contributing!

November 19, 2016 6:17 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #5

I like the deck, and you get a +1 from me, but you really need accordion spoilers on that description.

November 20, 2016 6:34 p.m.

maddoxmtg says... #6

I love it. These commanders are amazing and this one is my favorite. I built super hug on mine and I am having a blast.

November 20, 2016 7:20 p.m.

dranglupus says... #7

This deck description is art. Loving this.

November 26, 2016 8:47 p.m.

hamiam says... #8

LOVE IT +1

November 27, 2016 1:04 a.m.

fifthdawn says... #9

Daedalus19876, thanks for that recommendation. I tried to do accordion text on Turkey Day but couldn't grok it. Apologies!!

maddoxmtg, I agree. So much fun. Forbidden Orchard and the recently added Rainbow Vale are my favorites. Very cool to be able to play the Vale and almost forgot I could!

dranglupus Thanks so much. I got really stoned and silly and wrote it all. Luckily I edited it for clarity afterwards, LOL.

hamiam Appreciate you! Love you! +1, thanks for the love!!

November 27, 2016 2:19 p.m.

sadcowboy says... #10

December 2, 2016 3:52 p.m.

sadcowboy says... #11

Nvm about Chromatic Lantern

December 2, 2016 4:04 p.m.

fifthdawn says... #12

CthulhusNo1FavCultist, all good options, of course. I have a preference for creature mana over artifact mana, hence going with Earthcraft as opposed to those options. My commander requires colored mana, so preference towards the signets and Lantern, but I think Sol Ring is also perfectly reasonable. Also if Sol Ring gets added to the deck then I think some consideration for Trinket Mage could be made. Lantern doesn't ramp me towards my commander, since I can't play it before turn 3 unless I've ramped already, but it's still a fine choice. I play Prismatic Omen instead to couple with Emeria, The Sky Ruin and also to benefit from Gauntlet of Power effects. My curve basically ends at 5 though, so the fast colorless mana is a little less valuable, although still a fine option. Being that I have a lot of group hug in the deck, in a longer game, I like the consistency of ramping lands into play over the early advantage of fast colorless mana. That being said, I played with Chromatic Lantern extensively, and I found that although helpful, it wasn't vital, so I opted against it. Thanks!!

December 2, 2016 4:06 p.m.

sadcowboy says... #13

That makes sense!

December 2, 2016 4:42 p.m.

Infinimage007 says... #14

+1 just for the exhaustive description. That was well-written.

December 3, 2016 9:21 p.m.

metalevolence says... #15

this deck name is stupid

December 20, 2016 7:52 a.m.

fifthdawn says... #17

Stupid is a bad word.

December 20, 2016 12:20 p.m.

name is why i upvoted lol

December 20, 2016 9:48 p.m.

sadcowboy says... #19

then ur stupid too

December 20, 2016 9:55 p.m.

fifthdawn says... #20

VraskaTheCursed I love the upvotes for the name just as much as that upvote for description, Infinimage007. <3 you guys for the support, thanks!! m(._.)m

December 21, 2016 12:10 a.m. Edited.

Wait this is the deck that used to be called rainbow loam omen right

December 21, 2016 7:44 a.m.

how did you get so many upvotes!!!

December 21, 2016 6:49 p.m.

fifthdawn says... #23

VraskaTheCursed indeed.

GreenFuzzyNinja my guess is that other users can relate to my condition. ;)

December 22, 2016 12:19 p.m.

Well I shoulda upvoted this deck before name change anyway I thought I did in fact

December 22, 2016 3:16 p.m.

Lord_Khaine says... #25

As a STAX player, this rustles my jimmies.

December 24, 2016 9:14 p.m.

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