Superfriends and their Friends

Commander / EDH RohanDragoon

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Feb. 28, 2019

Removed: Sorin, Solemn Visitor and Jodah, Archmage Eternal Sorin was a lackluster planeswalker who wasn't doing very much, and just sat in my hand most of the time. Jodah helps casting maybe a spell per game, so he's not really useful except maybe turn 5-ing Bolas, but other than that he's also lackluster.

Added: Doubling Season and Oath of Gideon Doubling Season cause it's the staple I guess. Oath of Gideon cause it enables an infinite combo.

Unlife says... #1

I’m not sure what your budget is but look at the shock and check lands to replace your 2 color tap lands and life lands. You don’t have any ramp, so you want as many lands that won’t enter tapped in as possible. The pain lands are fine, depending on your preference, I’d recommend 10 shocks, 10 checks, 10 pain, a commander tower and 1 of each basic land. If you want to keep all the tap lands, find space for an Amulet of Vigor to let things enter then untap

February 13, 2019 12:11 p.m.

RohanDragoon says... #2

Thanks Unlife! I'm going to update to run the 10 shocks, 10 checks, and I'm going to run the 10 tris as well. I know it's not the best solution for the taps, but I often use Ral Zarek to untap the tap lands when they come in mid-late game.

February 13, 2019 4:04 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #3

The Chain Veil is an extremely powerful card in Superfriends.

Doubling Season is another extremely powerful card in superfriends, as it doubles loyalty counters placed on Planeswalkers when they enter the battlefield (note: it does not double increases due to loyalty ability costs). Just as importantly, it doubles the tokens you create with your planeswalker's loyalty abilities.

Arena Rector is a pretty decent option for free planeswalkers.

You are extremely light on interaction such as counterspells, removal, or board wipes. Supreme Verdict , Wrath of God , Damnation , Blasphemous Act , and Toxic Deluge are all particularly strong in superfriends, as you can clear your opponents' boards while leaving your own relatively untouched. Swords to Plowshares , Counterspell , and Cyclonic Rift are all cards you probably should be running.

You probably also want more ramp, such as signets or cards that fetch lands .

Trazi enables a particularly lethal infinite combo with Food Chain , though Food Chain is expensive and such a combo might be a bit too strong for a casual meta.

I would recommend cutting both Mu Yanling and Ral, Caller of Storms as they are incredibly mediocre and costly to cast.

February 13, 2019 5:07 p.m.

RohanDragoon says... #4

cdkime I totally agree that the chain veil and doubling season would be great additions. Unfortunately, Doubling Season is too out of budget for me for a single card. If it dropped like 10 i'd definitely consider it more.

Arena Rector I considered in my last singles buy, except that the dying trigger keeps me a little cautious, and since she's not an ally there's no real good way to tutor her out of the deck.

My biggest problem with running the boardwipes is that this deck is a superfriends/ally merge. So while you are playing superfriends, you also are playing allies. And there are times when your board is ten allies, in which pulling a boardwipe isn't as much of help.

In regards to Mu Yanling she's part of a win con, which is primarily why I keep her around. Teamed up with Vraska the Unseen 's ult, she ends it. Venser, the Sojourner does the same thing, but Venser is a much more threatening planeswalker whereas more people will just ignore Yanling.

Ral, Caller of Storms I'm more on the fence about. His card draw is nice mid game, when with some of the other planeswalkers you can be putting like 4 cards into your hand a turn. But I agree he's still a little lackluster, so I might remove him.

Thanks for the advice! I'm definitely going to look back into the planeswalker loyalty boost and maybe some more ramp and look over Ral and some of the other mediocre planeswalkers in the deck

February 13, 2019 5:43 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #5

Arena Rector serves an important secondary function in a deck - it makes it very scary to attack you. Even if you never get to use its tutor effect, players will be extremely reluctant to toss any large, non-flying creatures in your direction.

I would also argue that, when playing superfriends, the ultimate abilities should not be what you design your synergies around. While there are situations where Mu Yanling will win you the game, often she is just going to sit about doing relatively little for a six-drop.

February 13, 2019 5:56 p.m.

RohanDragoon says... #6

That's a really good point about Arena Rector I hadn't really thought about it that way. I'll definitely put her into a maybeboard and watch her price.

And that's a really good point about the ultimates. I guess I do put a lot of emphasis on them for the superfriends win-cons. But, at the very least, when playing cards like Inexorable Tide and Oath of Teferi (and potentially in the future The Chain Veil and Doubling Season ) it's definitely not something I can ignore.

I'm definitely going to put Yanling in the reconsider section with Ral, but I'm a little more cautious to do so. Taking her out also gets rid of a nice way to get your allies through and, in the best case scenario, a double-striking Ormendahl, Profane Prince .

But I think for that matter I also might reconsider Sorin, Solemn Visitor . Right now the only thing he does for the deck really is his ult, and because of that I guess I rarely play him in lieu of other walkers or creatures.

February 13, 2019 6:38 p.m.

mitzy says... #7

Add the maybe board, those are some of the best cards for super friends, heres my deck: Super friends

February 14, 2019 4:12 p.m.