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Force of Virtue
If it's not your turn, you may exile a white card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Creatures you control get +1/+1.
Force of Virtue Discussion
1 month ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
2 months ago
First of all, I would replace Angelic Gift With either Gryff's Boon or Rancor , just like you said in the description. Why? Because Rampage of the Clans would destroy it, and it gets returned to your hand/battlefield whatsoever. Then, I would highly recommend a few copies of Collected Company , since it can be cast in an opponent's turn. Did it occur to you that red als also some great centaurs? For example, Burning-Tree Shaman , Stonebrow, Krosan Hero , Nikya of the Old Ways and Fanatic of Xenagos . Utopia Sprawl is in my opinion better than Verdant Haven . Then there's Conclave Cavalier , which is totally bonkers, although that strategy would not be effective when running Collected Company . Rosemane Centaur is also a good addition, but mainly if you run lower CMC creatures. And even though Genesis is not a centaur, flavourwise it would be a nice addition to this list. Maybe one copy of Fated Intervention for some instant-speed pressure. Tribalwise, I would highly recommend Metallic Mimic or Adaptive Automaton to replace the Stoneforge Masterwork , and you can even sacrifice them to Rampage of the Clans , for more value/pressure. Maybe a Mirror Entity to boost your crew in mid/lategame? If your having trouble getting the right creatures at the right time, maybe Eladamri's Call would be a nice tutor in this list. For fun, I would maybe even run a copy of Descendants' Path . You could also add some artifacts that suit nicely in any tribal deck. Think of cards like Icon of Ancestry , Obelisk of Urd , Bow of Nylea , Eldrazi Monument or maybe even Coat of Arms . Maybe even add a Selesnya Signet for fixing. All artifacts which you can even sacrifice to Rampage of the Clans . Also consider some Changelings, since they're basically just Centaurs... Chameleon Colossus . You could also add Oath of the Ancient Wood , if you're planning on running this amount of enchantments/auras. Then there's lands. I realize you want to keep this list budget, that's ok, in your case I would still run several Canopy Vista , Fortified Village , Temple of Plenty , Mutavault (which is a centaur), or Oran-Rief, the Vastwood . Chronicler of Heroes goes nicely with Lagonna-Band Trailblazer . Centaur Omenreader is also a pretty solid card by simple making your creatures cost 2 less when it's tapped. You also need cardadvantage. Think of cards like Harmonize . Also, in this meta, you'll need some hard removal. Think of cards like Dismember , Path to Exile , Generous Gift or Beast Within . You can also consider some allround lords and anthem effects. Maybe cards like Wilt-Leaf Liege , Always Watching , Glorious Anthem , Gaea's Anthem , Radiant Destiny , Hall of Triumph , Force of Virtue , Beastmaster Ascension or Collective Blessing . Maybe even a Song of Freyalise ? Yet again, all cards you can eventually sacrifice for Rampage of the Clans . You could even add some retrieval in this list, think of cards like Noxious Revival , Regrowth or Eternal Witness . Sideboard wise, I would highly recommend cards like Rest in Peace , Stony Silence , Dryad Militant , Krosan Grip , Damping Sphere , Grafdigger's Cage , Leyline of Sanctity .
This is it for now. When anything relevant comes up, I will let you know.
Keep up the good work.
2 months ago
The biggest problem I can see is that you don't have enough lands. In my experience, Martyr Proc works better on 22-24. 19 is Burn territory. I would cut Force of Virtue to make room since you don't really need it. As a Martyr Proc deck, you should be able to afford to durdle for several turns after gaining life, thus there is no need to pump your creatures and win faster since you have the ability to attack and pass the turn without dying.
Next is that you need to have the fourth Martyr of Sands . It's the centerpiece of the deck, being that it's the deck's fastest and most consistent win-con enabler; you want it every game.
I also question the need for Oketra's Monument . I get that it's there to help supplement the soul sisters and Ajani, but something that creates value immediately like Spectral Procession is more valuable in my opinion. Though my bigger beef with it is that it takes up spaces that you could use for better cards like the fourth Martyr, more Ranger-Captain of Eos , and Giver of Runes (all of which I consider to be better for the deck than Oketra's Monument). That said, I don't think it's horrible, but if you end up cutting Force of Virtue (which I would) it would be best to play less Monument or just cut it completely and add any of the three cards I just mentioned.
2 months ago
What are composite prinnies?
My folders aren't very organised. [Not My Commander] is my only folder where I include other people's decks, and literally only just started doing that a few days ago. Yours is the second one I've added, so I don't really have any context for it yet. Rest assured I like the idea of your deck a lot.
Yeah, no love lost for the Worldgorger Dragon here either. It needs more than decent support in the form of reanimation and countermagic, and if your deck isn't all about that then it's not necessarily a great fit. I just mentioned it because it's an interesting card that cares about exiled stuff. I won't be offended in the least if you don't adopt a suggestion of mine, in case you're concerned about that. It's your deck, dude. I'm just here to help.
Lion's Eye Diamond is crazy expensive, money-wise. For that reason, I personally don't think it's ever worth running unless you're building at least a somewhat competitive deck, unless you just happen to have one handy. On the other hand, if you do only play casually with friends then they probably won't mind if you run a tournament-illegal version of Yawgmoth's Will – there are gold-bordered signed collector's versions available for significantly less than the regular cost (with Yawgmoth's Will on magiccardmarket ATM, it's €7.00 as opposed to the official card that's €23.95). They don't have a standard MtG back on them though, so you'll need to be using sleeves to use them.
So, Doomsday . If you don't like it, then don't run it. But as I understand it, a lot of those packages run 3-4 draw spells, Laboratory Maniac , and maybe some countermagic support. Considering this is what's in your deck ATM, I'll run with that. It's another all-in strategy and once again; if your Lab Maniac gets countered or killed before you draw the card, it pretty much means that you lose. I know a lot of people run Gitaxian Probe and other super-cheap draw spells in this package, the idea being to cast them all in the one turn and then win. If you want to stick with the Flashback theme, there's Faithless Looting and Scour All Possibilities and Echo of Eons which you already run, and then there's Deep Analysis and Think Twice . None of these is particularly expensive money-wise. Also, I know this is exactly the opposite of what you're looking for, but if Doomsday is to be a legit wincon for this deck then you might want to reconsider cutting Mirror of Fate . It's rarely an amazing card, but in this deck if things are going well, basically stands to serve as a second Doomsday, which is exactly what every Doomsday deck wants.
As for the landbase, how exactly did you want to revise it? There are a lot of interesting things to be done with lands, but I've usually just forgone those when it comes to 4+ colour mana bases (particularly if budget means running slow fetch lands like Bad River as opposed to Polluted Delta ). Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is good in any deck that uses black. I know you're not running any other Slivers, but Path of Ancestry is still a decent land in 5-colour decks that aren't high-end competitive - just read it as a Command Tower that enters tapped, which is still pretty great in non-competitive EDH. If you are okay with a couple of a taplands, Grand Coliseum is also great. On the other end, Tarnished Citadel is good for mana right now if you need it.
Now, for some suggestions on Flashback and other cards to cut.
I think you have just a couple too many recursion effects for instant and sorcery spells. Cards like Pull from the Deep are pretty decent because they get you two-for-one, as in you spend one card to gain access to two.
Conversely, something like Recoup probably isn't so good - it only gives you access to one card when you cast it, and you need to have the mana available to cast it that same turn. It's not an awful card, it has Flashback which both gives it more utility than for which I'm giving it credit and also fits this deck's theme. But you have an above-average amount of recursion spells and if you are actively looking for something to cut, this'd be something I'd recommend.
I think Sins of the Past is a decent card, but not great unless you have a number of really great bombs in your deck. If you don't have a fair number of high-cost, high-impact spells to target with it, it becomes an expensive 1-for-1. Similarly, Mystic Retrieval can be good when things are going your way and it sort of fits the theme, but in the early- to mid-game it can really suck to be left with only this card in your hand. When making cuts, you'll generally want to cut the cards that, at some points of the game, do straight-up nothing. Unfortunately, Mystic Retrieval kinda fits the bill here.
All Suns' Dawn is a great recursion spell, but less good when you lean away from a few colours. Considering you already have a number of other great spells in your deck, I don't know about this one in this scenario. I think basically, you'll want a few low-end and a few high-end recursion spells.
Some cards I would cut when push comes to shove —
3 months ago
Cards to consider from modern Horizons and M20:
Giver of Runes
On Thin Ice
Knight of the Ebon Legion (1/2 Vampire Bro)
Marit Lage's Slumber
Scour All Possibilities
Season of Growth
Wrenn and Six
Winds of Abandon
Angel of Vitality
Aria of Flame
Dead of Winter
Etchings of the Chosen
Force of Negation
Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer (new blue walker)
Sword of Sinew and Steel
Sword of Truth and Justice
Ajani, Strength of the Pride
Drawn from Dreams
Force of Virtue
Kykar, Wind's Fury
Omnath, Locus of the Roil
Serra the Benevolent
Urza, Lord High Artificer
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
Cavalier of Flame
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim
Rienne, Angel of Rebirth
Yarok, the Desecrated
Echo of Eons
this is a lot of cards, and more are sure to come out that I want to include. I'm considering making a modern cube in addition to my legacy cube, or maybe expanding the cube altogether. I really don't want to go to 720, and honestly I would prefer 360 with a regular rotation of cards, but I don't play the cube often enough to justify that so for now it sticks to 720.
4 months ago
- Tithe Taker
- Knight of the Holy Nimbus
- Spirit of the Labyrinth
- Angel of Jubilation fetch land deny but after turn 4 which is really late
Modern Horizons Testlist:
- Serra the Benevolent only for flying creature heavy decks: Serra Ascendant and Resplendent Angel for lifelink plan only, Serra would require another gameplan
- Giver of Runes
- Ranger-Captain of Eos tutor for Giver of Runes , Weathered Wayfarer , Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip would require some restructure of the deck
- Winds of Abandon Expensive Path of Exile with overload (Could remove Wrath of God to free up cardslots
- Force of Virtue only for an active devotion gameplan
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