Getting back into Legacy
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Posted on June 22, 2021, 4:18 p.m. by Metroid_Hybrid
I used to play -Eldrazi Stompy in Legacy 3-5 years ago, before switching to EDH due the LGS where I had moved to having a large EDH community (pre-lockdowns). However, I'm currently in a position where I might be able to play some Legacy events in the near-future, and I want to update my deck accordingly. But I think it's worth briefly noting the developmental-chain that led to the current decklist that I own..
Ironically enough, this deck was originally based on a "budget" Vintage list from The Mana Source (watch it to have a chuckle over how much less the Reserve List cards used to be). My original list was extremely close to this, except invert the 1:4 ratio of Chalice of the Void / Null Rod , and I (originally) ran Simian Spirit Guide ..
Out of the entire decklist, it is the Manabase that has fluctuated the most. For starters, I immediately cut Ghost Quarter after the deck's "maiden journey" due to most decks in Legacy run enough basic lands to render GQ's utility virtually worthless.
This led to me experimenting with running 2-4x Mishra's Factory for about a year before eventually cutting them altogether.
During this time I also experimented with running 2-4x Eye of Ugin & Simian Spirit Guide , and 3x of both ultimately feels like the right amount.
I also bought my copies of City of Traitors one at a time over the course of several months, and it felt right once I got to 3..
Near the end of the period when I was playing this semi-regularly, I noticed that some games would be lost due to simple chump-blockers, so I decided to throw in a copy of Rogue's Passage . But this was immediately before competitive Legacy events dried up out of nowhere, and therefore haven't had the chance to live test any changes since...
Also the lack of basic lands made times when I would come across things like Path to Exile , Ghost Quarter , & Blood Moon especially awkward, so I threw in a basic Wastes for good measure..
Something else that I had noticed was that more & more lists were using Walking Ballista , which intrigued me because the deck needs more Removal, and I'm almost never happy to draw Dismember either. So I replaced 2x Endless One s with WB's..
Karakas seemed to also be in almost every competitive-level list ever, so I eventually decided to get one myself.
I think the most important consideration is Karn, the Great Creator . Not only is it a Restricted in Vintage power-level lock-piece, but turning the Sideboard into a toolbox is huge. Unfortunately, no two decklists seem to agree at all on what said toolbox should contain. Therefore I am at a loss.
The other, far more recent card that has found it's way onto my radar is Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth . This land generally serves the exact same purpose as Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , with the exception of the possibility of a pain-free Dismember , but can otherwise be paired with Elvish Spirit Guide & Cavern of Souls to spawn a -variant sometime in the near-future..
All forms of Delver & Miracles have always been an easy win. I usually don't even bother to Sideboard..
Burn & various Storm decks ultimately come down to if I can drop an early lock-piece or not.
The kind of decks that I've had the biggest problem with are Stoneforge Mystic decks and BUG variants, particularly Shardless Sultai. Generally because a lack of removal spells, and Dismember isn't always enough take out a Tarmogoyf ..
(But I also think it's worth mentioning that this was all when Deathrite Shaman was still legal)
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Metroid_Hybrid says... #3
Eraid: Absolutely! I've laid out (the short version of) my experience with with deck up above. There is, of course, the comments & updates on my decklist as well.
Looking at the Eldrazi deck on your profile page. Our Mainboards are not that radically different from one another, other than small differences in card ratios, and the only newer card present in the mainboard is Ugin, the Ineffable .
On the other hand, it is the Sideboard where our decks differ the most, and that happens to be one of my bigger weaknesses as a deck builder. Therefore I am very curious about your reasoning behind the 15 cards in your Sideboard..
The one part of my Sideboard that I will assert, however, is Faerie Macabre . As the Macabre, in my experience, is clearly the Spanish Inquisition of Graveyard-hate! Reanimator, and other Graveyard-based decks, plan on seeing things like Leyline of the Void games 2 & 3, but they never count on commiting to their combo before a Faerie Macabre shows up out of nowhere to ruin their day..
Eraid says... #2
Hi! I have been playing legacy eldrazi since 2016 and never stopped! I have played all the iterations of the past few years and kept all the lists updated to the current meta. I would like us to share our knowledge if you are interested :)
June 27, 2021 2:45 p.m.