Wotc's hints 2
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Posted on Feb. 16, 2015, 7:10 p.m. by Gideon17
Siege Dragon's name was probably our hint for the dragn sieges. mind = blown
GlistenerAgent says... #3
Because they're goddamn DRAGONS. That's why.
Thundermaw Hellkite was gas. You should play it.
February 16, 2015 7:26 p.m.
slovakattack says... #4
GlistenerAgent: I maintain that Thundermaw is finisher material in Modern. Especially in this meta, with lingering souls being such a poophead.
February 16, 2015 7:28 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #5
Yeh, absolutely. It's like the old meta, where once a year Jund would play Thundermaw Hellkite to beat the Lingering Souls Jund decks, which in turn would develop to beat the pure midrange mirrors that smashed the Thundermaw Hellkite versions. Good times.
February 16, 2015 7:31 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #7
I agree with literally everything PV said. His point is kind of exemplified by the existence of Shatterstorm. Play that, you beat Affinity. Skimp on it, and you get obliterated. We need to push people to take gambles with their deck choices and sideboard building, and reward metagaming like every other format does. 20-card sideboards would be awesome. :)
February 16, 2015 7:38 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #8
I agree with literally everything PV said. His point is kind of exemplified by the existence of Shatterstorm. Play that, you beat Affinity. Skimp on it, and you get obliterated. We need to push people to take gambles with their deck choices and sideboard building, and reward metagaming like every other format does. 20-card sideboards would be awesome. :) Sideboarding building was always my favorite part of the format.
February 16, 2015 7:39 p.m.
slovakattack says... #9
I'm actually a little hesitant on the idea of increasing SB counts, because imo it'd just turn into a bunch of decks that combo out on G1, then shift to beatdown decks in G2-G3.
It'd be boring.
I do think that Modern needs a higher 'power level', as it were. It might not need FoW, but... I dunno. I like the idea of WotC unbanning a lot of 'broken' cards (like Mystic, Jtms, Deathrite shaman, sword of the meek), and seeing how it pans out for a short while.
February 16, 2015 7:46 p.m.
slovakattack says... #10
I do think he really hit the nail on the head about the problems, tho.
February 16, 2015 7:46 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #11
I liked that article a lot. I agree that he hit the nail on the head. that is the main reason i don't want to get into modern.
February 16, 2015 8:12 p.m.
Most of the problems in Modern could be fixed if WotC reprinted Force of Will and Swords to Plowshares.
Half the ban list is eliminated because there no longer needs to be a turn four rule with Force of Will keeping everything in check. The ban list can focus more on oppressive combo decks, rather than arbitrary turn count. It's been shown time and time again in Legacy and Vintage that all-in, glass cannon, turn one kill combo decks aren't very good when your opponent can two-for-seven you by paying one life.
I've also argued repeatedly (both online and in real life) that Lightning Bolt and Snapcaster Mage have been more format-warping than most of the bans WotC has implemented. It's the reason we don't see aggro decks unless they're Birthing Pod or Delver of Secrets Flip status. Lightning Bolt -> Snapcaster Mage -> Lightning Bolt not only presents opportunities to wipe your opponent's board clean, it also functions as a win condition.
Swords to Plowshares, while a much better, more powerful removal spell, doesn't give you a win condition. It's a dead card in multiple matches and doesn't do anything against planeswalkers. However, it means creatures like Lodestone Golem, Trygon Predator, Merrow Reejerey, or Serra Avenger aren't trash because the same card that kills them also kills Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Blightsteel Colossus, and Primeval Titan.
As it is, Lightning Bolt is the default removal spell. It's the most played card in Modern, seen in 37% of all decks as a four-of. We don't see aggro decks in the format because anything that costs more than one mana has to have four or greater toughness OR it has to do something amazing (Young Pyromancer, Scavenging Ooze, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, etc.).
I doubt WotC will ever reprint either one in a Modern-legal set because of what it does to Standard. Force of Will wouldn't be warping. Would we seriously two-for-one ourselves to stop Satyr Wayfinders? It'd likely be hard-cast most of the time, using its free mode to tap out for a planeswalker and stop something like Hero's Downfall or Stormbreath Dragon from landing.
Swords to Plowshares, on the other hand, would mean they'd have to seriously increase the power level of creatures or risk the format turning into Magic: the Planeswalkers.
kyuuri117 says... #2
Huh. Interesting. Too bad it's yet another unplayable dragon /sigh.
Wish they would just release some playable 3-4 cmc baby dragons. Don't see the point of making them all cost 5-8 mana.
February 16, 2015 7:19 p.m.