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Lazotep Plating
Instant
Amass 1. (Put a +1/+1 counter on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)
You and permanents you control gain hexproof until end of turn. (You and they can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
Argy on Brew my deck for me
3 weeks ago
Two cards I have also found useful in EDH, because they allow for a board wipe, are Aetherspouts, and River's Rebuke
Polymorphist's Jest can also help to get rid of Opponent Creatures, or at the very least cut their damage down.
Note that all these cards require you to have excellent timing, so test with them before adding them to your deck.
Lazotep Plating is an excellent protection spell.
Turn to Frog is another good option, however I think Polymorphist's Jest is far better, for EDH.
Of course the strength of these all depend on your playgroup.
wallisface on Surgical Forfeit
8 months ago
mooffalosystema i have played a load of competitive mill, winning tourney with it, and know full-well the ins-and-outs of competitive play.
If you do the math on Mind Funeral you’ll find that it is absolutely terrible when compared to almost all other 2-and-3 mana mill spells. There’s a very good reason no competitive builds ever run that card.
Indiscriminate discard is always worse than being able to target and remove the card that actually poses a threat. There will be a bunch of games where Inquisition is only able to grab the cards the opponent doesn’t really card about. Not being able to grab a Sheoldred, the Apocalypse or Scion of Draco or Murktide Regent or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is a massive mistake when these are all very-commonly seen threats.
Your assessment of Lazotep Plating baffles me. It only temporarily stalls some combo decks, and feels negligible anywhere else. I think Storm is the only deck that would ever need to be cautious of this card, and nobodies playing Storm atm anyway cause it’s bad. If your local playgroup somehow validates this cards existence, it’s still only a sideboard card at-best (and even then, a terrible one - there’s sooo many better options!).
wallisface on Surgical Forfeit
8 months ago
Some thoughts:
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Lazotep Plating seems really underwhelming considering you have no permanents outside of lands, so all you're really making is a piddly 1/1 army to act as block-fodder. Why not something more impactful here?
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Why Inquisition of Kozilek instead of Thoughtseize? Particularly in any midrange/control matchup, Inquisition of Kozilek just doesn't hit enough targets. But even in combo decks there's a lot of high-mana cards you'd really be needing to hit.
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Mind Funeral is possibly the most underwhelming mill card out there - there are a LOT better options.
Crow_Umbra on Neon Light Speed [Primer]
1 year ago
No prob Profet93! I've used Seize the Spotlight before in my Anhelo, the Painter deck that eventually got recycled into this one. Seize the Spotlight definitely has that additional bit of upside, since my meta tends to skew a bit more aggro/go wide. I've used Lazotep Plating in another older deck, and liked the corner case protection of giving myself Hexproof on some occasions.
I'm waiting for the most recent Ixalan cards to hit the site, but a change that I am making to the deck is replacing Genasi Enforcers with Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance. I've liked making token copies with her ability when I've play-tested so far.
Profet93 on Neon Light Speed [Primer]
1 year ago
Thank you for your detailed explanation, I sincerely appreciate it. Regarding Miscast and it's potential considerations, Seize the Spotlight is probably the best given it allows you to more easily get in combat damage and potentially draw cards + ramp. However, Lazotep Plating is kind of more like a counterspell with wide utility. Both are more expensive than 1 mana of course.
Crow_Umbra on Neon Light Speed [Primer]
1 year ago
Thanks for the suggestions Profet93, I appreciate them. My thoughts on the suggestions and some of your questions:
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Rhystic Study - Definitely a great card. I don't play it because I don't currently own a copy, but have played against it numerous times in my local metas. It's not the most fun for me to experience, so I'd rather spare others the "Do you pay the ?". I think Mystic Remora puts in plenty of work in this regard. My primary play group tends to pay the more often than not, so I do acknowledge its usefulness as a tax piece.
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Berserkers' Onslaught - Pretty understandable to feel that way at first glance. I've liked it as a means of getting extra tokens on those haste-y combat damage connections. I haven't really had any moments where I regretted playing it.
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Tragic Slip - Great removal piece. I didn't initially consider it for this deck, but have used it in the past in more aristocrats focused builds. Lots of stuff dies, so it's not that hard to get the Morbid clause. I'll consider it as a potential swap.
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Reality Shift - I frequently play against graveyard utilizing strats, so I like to utilize exile removal whenever I can manage it. So far, I haven't really had any issue with a significant threat under the Manifest. More often than not it's been a land or non-creature spell.
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Miscast - I've had some past success with this counter in other decks. I think in those situations, my opponents either were already tapped out, or couldn't pay the for whatever reason. I added this after some of the earliest games with the deck, where I felt I needed a couple of more cheap counterspell options. Some other stuff I've considered for this slot: Familiar's Ruse, Mizzium Skin, Lazotep Plating, Change of Plans, or Seize the Spotlight
Mattio38 on Joneleth Irenicus - Dimir Donate
1 year ago
Thanks a lot for your feedback carpecanum
Starting from the bottom: I agree with you and I think that's the biggest weakness of the deck. I still own cards like An Offer You Can't Refuse and Lazotep Plating which could help me solve that problem. But I have no clue what to cut for those. Any suggestions for that?
I initially ran Tainted Strike but I had to cut it for a removal spell, because I'm already quite short on those too... It does seem like a ton of fun though!
Plague Reaver is aweful. It's cheap, it's big, it's perfect! Completely missed that card. On behalf of my playgroup: Thank you
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