I think maybe Encroaching Wastes could be put somewhere. Mutavault and the occasional Maze's End control deck might be worth it, considering it's just a land.

@ProfessorDucky

I've waffled on whether or not I wanted Heliod, God of the Sun in the main or in the side. I would have had a more mid-rangeish deck if I had kept him in, or I would have had to ditch the Firemane Avenger s (which I wasn't keen on doing.

I figured, that he is worth playing in the side at the very worst as a decent board-in vs control. Against Wraths and bounce its a lot harder for Firemane Avenger to stay online consistently so I would end up swapping two of them out for Heliod, God of the Sun s so that I can have a token generator just in-case the game goes long while still having a hefty beater if I can force it sooner.

His tokens (and himself) also boost Ethereal Armor which is a very handy upside. Adding to that, I feel that Vigilance as an ability (especially en masse) is under-rated and worth having. He is yet another card that I wish I could fit into the main.

Heck, at this point I'm almost inclined to choke up the Maybeboard section with every card that I'm at least passively considering. haha

@ProfessorDucky

I've wanted to include utility lands (I played a pair of Slayers' Stronghold in an older version of the deck that I played before spoiler season) but considering that I'm beholden to Mountain s to keep Chained to the Rocks I don't feel that my color density for white can go much lower without inhibiting my ability to cast threats. Its possible a utility land could make it to the side but its still kinda iffy.

The reason that I feel I can't really spare spaces for non-white land even though I only play two that don't produce White is that in the older versions of the deck just the pair of Slayers' Stronghold would occasionally log-jam my Precinct Captain s and force me to play other 2 drops (which I wanted to cast less than him). I figure, now that I'm playing a full eight 2 drops that require WW its abysmally more likely that I'll run into a problem casting them promptly.

Hopefully that makes sense, (I get really ramble-y in the mornings because I have sleeping problems) thanks again for the suggestions and critiques!

Haha, yeah I can get that. Your deck has high white density, and I myself have had those experiences where I can't cast my WW creature.

The comments were tl;dr, but what about Martial Glory ?

Just saw the sideboard.

@jonhydude

Haha, Martial Glory was in the main until less than five minutes ago when Coordinated Assault filled its slot. I also mentioned in the description that I wanted to potentially have it in the main as its still quite good. I would likely rather have a 4th Coordinated Assault though.

I can understand about the (more or less) book of comments above though. haha Maybe I'll update the comment section in a little bit.

Where are your Akroan Crusader s?

@Theophilus

I like Akroan Crusader and would like to play him if it weren't for a few things.

1. He is a red creature, and the tokens he creates are red, which means that Brave the Elements can't save him or them.

2. Considering that all eight of my 2 drops cost WW its difficult to T1 a red souce and T2 into one of those as the only way to do that is with a Sacred Foundry .

3. I'm not sure where he would go even if it weren't for 1 & 2. Favored Hoplite s spot is the only space I feel he could reasonably fit and I'm inclined to keep him. I do appreciate the suggestion and I'll drop him into the Maybeboard just to have the idea on-hand.

Thanks for the suggestion!

+1 I like the Title and I like the deck. Anax and Cymede -- how are your feelings for that card? I think most assume it to be only good with heroic being activated, but to me a 3 cost 3/2 first strike vigilance seems worthy.

You may want to reconsider Hopeful Eidolon . For me personally, I've found it to never really be a dead draw despite it being a 1 drop. Early game, its a chump blocker, lifegainer, or something to enchant. Mid-game, its a buff for your guy, or chump blocker. And all the while, it's an enchantment (whether bestowed or not). I top decked the guy with a Fiendslayer Paladin on the field (with Unflinching Courage ) and a Pacifism on an opponent creature. Suddenly, I played the Eidolon and equpped with Ethereal Armor and had a 5/5 first strike lifelinker for 2 mana on turn 6.

Okay, that was a lot to write, but basically all I'm saying is that I feel it's a nice card worth a second try :) Just a thought!

Based on the other costs of Bestow creatures, I'm thinking that Hopeful Eidolon 's Bestow cost is 3W. It's pretty huge in limited, but I don't know if it'll be great in constructed.

Just the simple fact that Bestow creatures can boost Ethereal Armor or hell even Sphere of Safety is hilarious and will be abused to no extent

@Spootyone

I'm a big fan of Anax and Cymede as I feel like first strike and vigilance together, coupled with a natural 3 power does a lot of work. I mean, after all I have more of them in here than Fabled Hero s (which I suppose could be split 2/3 instead of 3/2 but I like it this way at present.) haha

I want to like Hopeful Eidolon but I feel like it isn't quite good enough in this deck. If I were to take it back to its pre-rotation iteration (it was a Path of Bravery deck which took first at FNM) then I would almost definitely include at least a couple of him just because there isn't a Nearheath Pilgrim after rotation to help spread around lifelink. As I said, as it stands, I don't think that this deck can really use the Eidolon particularly better than the other stuff already in there.

I'll definitely keep the recommendation on Hopeful Eidolon in mind, thanks for the suggestion!

@ProfessorDucky

Yeah, if the bestow cost is where it seems to be then I'm think it won't quite be worth it. Honestly though, if I were going to hedge a second guess after just looking at the spoiled card I would say it looks like 4W and not 3W. On the whole, I just hope its an incidentally spread around mistake and that it somehow costs less than its peers. Seems unlikely at this point though.

@Stone_Munkee

Yeah, I had made a Sphere of Safety deck when it was first printed (just for fun) but obviously it was lacking some key pieces. It was certainly fun though. haha I'm curious how playable it will become with all these new toys for it.

i think that everyone assumes that red/white are the ''hero'' colors, but i have realized that as cipher says cast that it is blue/black that can do the most damge with heroic

I've been working on alot of similar boros builds recently and I just have a couple suggestions. I don't think you're creature count is high enough or fast enough to warrant using firemane avenger. I played with a battalion deck for a while and although it's a very good card you are never going to get the lightning helix ability off unless you can some how give it haste or put out a creature with haste the following turn to trigger it. Her ability is too slow and too fragile for this deck as it is.

My second suggestion is that you drop coordinated assault and swap it out for a stronger instant. You may not always have two heroic creatures out at once and then it's kind of weak outside of being maybe a surprise first strike combat trick.Those are just my suggestions after play testing your deck a couple times. Good luck!

@Epfoiler

I'd argue that its debatable that U/B can do the most outright damage but between Triton Tactics , Boon of Erebos , Hidden Strings and Agent of the Fates you can certainly get a lot done. If I had the proper duals at this very second I would at least toy with the idea of going America or Dark Boros.

@Grizzly103

Honestly, I disagree with your assessment of Firemane Avenger s inclusion in this deck. I can see where you are coming from as a 4 drop that doesn't immediately impact the board can be hit or miss, but, I've never really ever been unhappy to draw her and rare has the board been where I felt I couldn't hit Battalion when I needed to. Granted some of my perspective on it is from the last version of this deck, but, that deck had an slower creature curve than this one. As a secondary conciliatory point, I did have a pair of Frontline Medic s in the last deck which made it easier to swing in with her, but, I feel like anything like Precinct Captain (who does a great job enabling Battalion by himself IMO), Anax and Cymede or Fabled Hero can all do solid work punching in. I'm sure that I wouldn't mind playing Heliod, God of the Sun in lieu of Firemane Avenger , but, as it stands I'm not sure which I would rather have in the main.

I'm inclined to agree on the second point that I kinda want Martial Glory back in the main in terms of more consistent actual power should I not be packing on Heroic creatures, but, apart from the fact that I have twelve main-boarded Heroic creatures I feel that for a single mana I'll be more able to consistently protect the investment on-board while leaving mana open to threaten the Assault on the attack or block.

If I wasn't already trying to find space for Dragon Mantle or trying to put Boros Charm back into the main I would love to find space for both Coordinated Assault and Martial Glory . (Of course if I were running blue I would be all over Triton Tactics )

We shall have to see what happens after I get some solid play-testing in as we approach release. I'll definitely take your critiques under advisement, thanks for the help!

Dritz I think that wizards plans on adding the other scry land colors next set, but i would agree that some of lands needing to enter tapped. The ability to know went out use them can help, but i don't think that it would be that hard to abuse Hidden Strings with a card like Agent of the Fates . I like the look of Wavecrash Triton as a way to lock down whatever, and with Aqueous Form your guys hit every time, and then you definitely get your heroic trigger, and your blocker. if you would check this rough draft that I actually put together. the land is not what i would do, but it was just a quick idea until i have more time. Dark Hero's???.

I would DEFINITELY add the fourth Soldier of the Pantheon . You are an aggro deck right? I would suggest taking out a Chained to the Rocks , as, while it is very efficient, it doesn't actually kill the opponent. Being fast out of the gates is what this deck wants to be doing.

A fourth Coordinated Assault could be worth considering due to the high number of Heroic creatures you're running. They obviously become a LOT better when you activate heroic. Seriously, think about it. If you activate heroic just ONCE on Phalanx Leader with maybe 2 other guys out, you're getting a FREE Gavony Township activation power in addition to the effects of the spell.