Strongest Card In Standard?
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Posted on Sept. 16, 2014, 1:24 p.m. by APPLE01DOJ
Answers Goblin Rabblemaster , answers Aggro.
3/4 token gen for 3 mana is huge. Vigilance is huge, nuts when boosted with Spear of Heliod . Free 2/2 tokens all day that can attack and block...
In your opinion, what do u think is the strongest card in the new meta?
APPLE01DOJ says... #3
lol I shoulda said strongest creature. I won't debate u on Thoughtseize .
September 16, 2014 1:30 p.m.
Goblin Rabblemaster IMHO Rabble red is a powerful deck to contend with right now
September 16, 2014 1:31 p.m.
TheNinjaJesus says... #6
And with all the other "this creature can't block this turn" effects going on in the meta right now, it's not like Brimaz is going to be allowed to block.
September 16, 2014 1:33 p.m.
omnipotato says... #7
APPLE01DOJ then I'd go with Courser of Kruphix . Brimaz is definitely up there though, so is Rabblemaster
September 16, 2014 1:39 p.m.
Nigeltastic says... #8
Sultai Ascendancy - card selection is a huge deal, and getting to fix all draws after turn 3 is bananas.
September 16, 2014 1:52 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #9
well Sultai Ascendancy will certainly make Courser of Kruphix that much stronger..
September 16, 2014 1:55 p.m.
Id say Courser of Kruphix for best creature as well
September 16, 2014 2:31 p.m.
Without a doubt, green is well poised to hold a dominant position post-rotation and is already very strong. On that basis alone and after playtesting, I think Courser of Kruphix wins, it's just so great in every way that a green deck wants.
After rotation I'm taking a hard look at Prophet of Kruphix . I think Supreme Verdict and wealth of two CMC removal is what made it unplayable this standard, but with verdict gone and removal at a premium, I'm thinking hard about a creature heavy GUx deck that goes caryatid --> courser --> prophet --> drop fatties/counter spells.
Also I think Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver will be big, especially if all the predictions about midrange decks dominating the format are correct.
September 16, 2014 3:17 p.m.
Apoptosis I have been abusing Prophet of Kruphix to great effect in the past month or so since a lot of my local shop has been testing "rotation proof" decks at FNM. I use the basic curve you mentioned, but mine is more of a Reid Duke Yisan, the Wanderer Bard build with Chord of Calling and Negate as my only non-creature spells. It's won me multiple FNM's and a wednesday night Squirrel pin so far, and I expect it to do even greater things once rotation is in full effect. If you're interested, heres the list Yisan Presents: The Wandering
This kind of deck is highly customizable to your local metagame and easily handles a splash for the third color. You should give it a try!
September 16, 2014 3:41 p.m.
OP_Magikarp says... #14
I'd go with Hydra Broodmaster . Running a devotion to green deck and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , You have the possibility of floating upwards of 20 mana on turn 6. With Broodmaster's monstrosity that's 10 10/10 tokens on top of a now 17/17 Broodmaster. Anything that can pump out 10 10/10s on turn 6 seems strong in my book
September 16, 2014 5 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #15
OPxMagikarp that's an interesting choice. I find Hydras fun as hell to play.
September 16, 2014 5:16 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #16
Genesis Hydra seems good in a similar vein (mostly because I loved Genesis Wave ,) but that's some crazy potential right there....go hydras.
September 16, 2014 5:20 p.m.
SkyRaider42 says... #17
I believe m14 is legal until khans comes out, so it's probably Mutavault
September 16, 2014 5:44 p.m.
Dalektable says... #18
It's certainly a toss up between Goblin Rabblemaster , Brimaz, King of Oreskos and Courser of Kruphix . The thing is though, they all serve monumentally different but equally important roles in their respective archetypes. In a world without removal, Prophet of Kruphix is pretty sweet :p
September 16, 2014 6:08 p.m.
Those cards are all fine and well, but Divination can draw two of any of those cards. Logically it's doubly as powerful as the rest of them. All hail card draw.
That silliness aside, I think pound for pound Elspeth, Sun's Champion is still one of the strongest cards around. It stabilizes super well against fast aggro, blows up mid-range creatures and represents a four turn clock when unopposed. Certainly it's gotten a little less popular lately, but in a vacuum it's still excellent.
September 16, 2014 7:27 p.m.
AussieBloke says... #20
I can't believe it hasn't been said yet so I'll be the one to do it. Stormbreath Dragon . Aww Yeah
September 16, 2014 7:33 p.m.
i dont know... Despise seems like a very similar card to thoughtseize - hitting a lot of important stuff. The card is still 1 black mana and it is much cheaper to buy and is an uncommon making it cheaper to buy and more accessible than Thoughtseize. I think it may have the most impact on standard. Also... despise doesn't cost any life to play.
September 17, 2014 11:31 a.m.
BlastercoolWeird says... #22
Colossus of Akros or Bearer of the Heavens they have the greatest base power out of creatures in the new standard ergo they are clearly the most powerful cards in the new meta
To be fair, IMO, my joke criteria is about as valid as any other arguments; it's a debate of whether these apples are objectively better than these oranges. You can argue for the strongest card by itself but that doesn't objectively determine their strength in the metagame, and what exactly determines strength between say, a creature or a planeswalker, isn't a simple game of who has the bigger numbers. Hell, it's not even a (simple) matter of numbers between cards of the same type thanks to things like color identity, CMC, abilities and costs, etc. Talking about the strength of cards in a meta seems like even more of a mess, is Courser of Kruphix stronger than Elspeth, Sun's Champion comparing Jund Monsters to UW control, because Courser is more than likely the weaker card objectively but in the monsters deck is greatly enables that deck to be the pro-level deck that it is, and a match between Monsters and pre-rotation UW could easily go either way.
long story short I'm a buzzkill who doesn't think this is a question with a right answer nor a question that's worth arguing one answer for.
September 17, 2014 12:38 p.m.
Charging Badger. That's all I need to say gentleman, I assume you will all agree.
omnipotato says... #2
Thoughtseize
September 16, 2014 1:28 p.m.