The Gold Standard

Standard AngelOfDivinity

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Clearing comments. —Aug. 23, 2015

Guys, what do you think. Is green really worth essentially one card? Sultai Charm, that is, of course. Every other green card is essentially "icing" to the cake that is Sultai, but that again, some cakes are good enough without icing. Not latkes. God I hate latkes. They're just a mix between bad mushy grits, bad mushy hashbrowns, and bad mushy hoe cakes. Why on Earth would anyone eat these awful things? They're like hominy, in that I can only assume they were invented by a tired sadist and his polite family said they loved them and it spread. Yuk.

But anyway. As for my green win conditions, they are easily replaceable with things in U/B. As for my sideboard, there is one other control deck in my meta, so would not feel bad about dropping Gaea's Revenge, and there are plenty of other options against aggro than Rakshasa Deathdealer (Or Rak-Shak the Death-Cat, as I like to call him). But Sultai Charm. Mainly it is the second ability that I like. It isn't even really that relevant, but it is my only response to Artifacts and enchantments.

What do you people think?

Ok, fine. I see where all you people are coming from with not having the 1-of orbs. I just really like the card. But I do still think the card is good. I'm going to consign it to sideboard as a 2-of. I also was not able to acquire a fourth Encase in Ice, so that is fitting.

I went 4-0 undefeated tonight, and took first place :D :D :D :D

Also pulled a foil Abbot of Keral Keep haha.

I don't really like crux. I used to run it but it just... at five mana? I don't like it much. Maybe if my meta weren't 80% aggro variants.

And as for Infinite Obliteration, I prefer Learn from the Past. Still messes with Deathmist Raptor and also messes mill up. So does Orbs of Warding.

August 15, 2015 2:20 a.m.

RacerXen says... #2

Green in a control shell like this needs wayfinders. 3 color control mana base is rough and your Wincons aren't exactly heavy tier 1. Esper Dragons is the better set up if you want to have excellent finishers and u/b no splash gives you access to a better mana base. Enchantment based removal losses hard to dromakas command which is seeing main board play. Also I hate green and in u/b control w is the better splash right now.

August 15, 2015 6:43 p.m.

Maybe in your meta. Mine is overloaded with creature removal and Gaea's Revenge, making Sultai Charm, Kiora, the Crashing Wave, and a load of Hexproof a necessity. Dragonlord Ojutai is great, yes. And I did pull her in a Korean pack, yes. And I do see her asset of "Hexproof the turn you cast her, irrelevant once you have counters to protect her." But I often see my opponents at the end of the game having 2-4 kill spells in hand that they couldn't play. And as for Encase in Ice, perhaps your meta sees a lot of enchantment removal, but I often side Hero's Downfall out in its favor. Last night I did that 3/4 matches, and won each 2-0. The only match I didn't do that for was against U/R thopters which had hardly any colored creatures to begin with, I think the only red one I saw was Thopter Engineer.

Thank you for you comment though. I am now going to wipe comments since there are so many and many of them are about cards that are no longer even in the deck.

August 15, 2015 7:22 p.m.

RacerXen says... #4

That's why you run Thoughtseize in the main and just wait to attack with Ojutai until you have the counter suite to back it up. My meta is Abzan heavy with RDW and G/W, basically all the Tier 1 decks are brought to the table. Post Rotation Esper Dragons will be able to retain it's cards better than any other control deck. It's a better investment now I think. Sultai loses hard to RDW, and I mean HARD.

August 16, 2015 1:27 a.m.

FerociousDoshi says... #5

Like it. I think Sagu Mauler could easily be switched for the Gaea's Revenge. I just think its so much more of a closer. Or did you see yourself casting Mauler for its morph cost?? Ive never ran with it before...

I think you could replace the Dragonlord's Prerogative with Treasure Cruise. I think there is a n its banned in modern- I think it has a place in control decks with a lot flowing into the graveyard.

I also might put Ashioks mainboard. Fits good with you already killing everything. Might as well take their toys as well. Great early drop.

Overall, great brew. Cant wait to try my version. Thnx for sharing.

August 16, 2015 9:02 p.m.

No problem. Actually, everything you suggested I used to have any changed into the things you suggest I now replace with them lol.

As for Gaea's revenge, I do agree that it totally wins games, but I feel like Mauler does too for less mana. No, I cannot imagine morphing it. Maybe if I really really really needed a 2/2 post-haste, but otherwise that is simply negligible. The trample is usually irrelevant too. I also don't like the in Gaea's Revenge. Idk, I might change that back into Revenge. For now I think I'll keep the revenges sideboard.

As for the prerogatives versus cruise, I prefer having less delve so I have more fuel for Dig Through Time, and the additional card is nice.

Ashiok. She is a thing. She I might drop Sagu Mauler for? I used to run her as a 2-of mainboard, but I feel like I hardly ever activated her -X and when I did it was usually immediately killed. Since all my creatures have hexproof, my opponents often end up with a handful of kill spells ripe to kill their own things with in such a case. Although Exiling their hand was always fun lol.

In my meta, anyway, there is sheerly so much aggro that I think I'm going to try dropping my 1 mainboard Disdainful Stroke and replacing it with Briber's Purse.

August 16, 2015 9:26 p.m.

Errast says... #7

I still don't think Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver fits in this deck, She/he's simply too slow, and if Aggro is overruning your meta, it simply won't do much. I'd really consider Bile Blight, or Ultimate Price if you're super worried about aggro decks messing you up. Either way, the deck looks good, and great job getting 1st at FNM!

Good luck with the deck man.

August 16, 2015 9:31 p.m.

Thanks. I agree that Ashiok is too slow. Plus, against aggro, she essentially never sees the field more than one turn.

August 17, 2015 5:52 p.m.

usurphling says... #9

For fun, I would recommend Phenax, God of Deception since you have kiora (i mean the 9/9 kraken), Sagu Mauler and Silumgar, the Drifting Death to take advantage of mill (in case for some reason, you cannot go through to their defenses) lol

I liked your choice of Learn from the Past. Yes Day's Undoing is less to cast but sometimes it screws your hand unless you picked a hand full of answers to the board.

August 18, 2015 6:24 p.m.

It seems like a good deck. Play testing... I am kind of wondering if Jace's Ingenuity is better than Dragonlord's Prerogative?? I tried adding 2 Jace's Sanctum taking out a charm and a prerogative.

Abzan dominates the local meta. Tho, RDW is seeing more play. I like the possibilities tho.

August 18, 2015 6:24 p.m.

@usurphling, I don't think phenax is right for this deck since usually, if I'm getting a 9/9 every turn for zero mana into perpetuity, the number of cards in their library becomes totally irrelevant haha. And yeah, that's part of why I picked Learn from the Past over Day's Undoing. Also I already have 2 foil Learn from the Past and Day's Undoing is $10 lol.

FerociousDoshi. I am not really fond of Jace's Ingenuity. I guess I just prefer the extra card? Not really sure. There is also the conditional uncounterable clause and the fact that Dragonlord's Prerogative will not be cycling out. And Jace's Sanctum just doesn't really appeal to me very much. And there is no way I would go less than 4 charm- not while Gaea's Revenge is a thing. Plus nixing artifacts and enchantments is entirely conditional, and that is why Naturalize is a sideboard staple, but it is a staple because of how entirely helpful anti-nonland-noncreature-nonplansewalker cards are in certain matchups. Stapled to an ordinarily useful removal spell and that funky card selection thing that feeds delve if I have no other uses for it, it will be staying in.

August 18, 2015 7:28 p.m.